HSM and Hats

[kcg NC2Ablu]

Originally Posted by charliej47

I use the HSM and wear my 'beanie' or the 4-stitch hat. Takes some getting used to but after a couple of games you can get the HSM off and on when needed.

If a girl with a pony tail can wear it then we can too. Wearing a hat isnt going to be as obtrusive as a pony tail.... so I agree. wear a 4 stich and give yourself a little more room in your mask

[IceGator8]

Originally Posted by kcg NC2Ablu

If a girl with a pony tail can wear it then we can too. Wearing a hat isnt going to be as obtrusive as a pony tail.... so I agree. wear a 4 stich and give yourself a little more room in your mask

Just the fact that if you have a big head wearing a hat will make the HSM beyond uncomfortable.

HSM aren't designed to be worn with a hat. Feelings toward them need to change to reflect this. Clinging to an archaic rule such as this in the name of tradition does nothing but deter innovators from coming up with great products like the HSM.

[kcg NC2Ablu]

Originally Posted by IceGator8

Just the fact that if you have a big head wearing a hat will make the HSM beyond uncomfortable.

HSM aren't designed to be worn with a hat. Feelings toward them need to change to reflect this. Clinging to an archaic rule such as this in the name of tradition does nothing but deter innovators from coming up with great products like the HSM.

so you shouldnt look professional on the field because its an archaic rule? hmmm next you might want to wear jeans on friday night games and brown loafers.... or maybe flip flops depending on who you are

[Rich]

Originally Posted by kcg NC2Ablu

so you shouldnt look professional on the field because its an archaic rule? hmmm next you might want to wear jeans on friday night games and brown loafers.... or maybe flip flops depending on who you are

I find it unprofessional to wear a that with a HSM. It's properly worn without a hat and wearing something improperly, to me, is unprofessional.

[kcg NC2Ablu]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I find it unprofessional to wear a that with a HSM. It's properly worn without a hat and wearing something improperly, to me, is unprofessional.

Standing around with messed up hair while talking to a coach with no hat on is unprofessional... which looks worse?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by kcg NC2Ablu

Standing around with messed up hair while talking to a coach with no hat on is unprofessional... which looks worse?

Says who? You'd better tell that to all-but-one of the Major League umpires that wear a helmet, then. Or officials in other sports that don't wear hats.

Wearing the mask too loosely (and potentially improperly) to squeeze a hat in there is stoopid. The only way that really works inside a helmet is backwards, so the bill can come out the gaps in the back panel. And that would be even worse to look at.

Besides, I keep my hair trimmed very short during baseball season.

[JJ]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Besides, I keep my hair trimmed very short during baseball season.

I have mine professionally thinned, but that's beside the point. I'd find out who the Powers that Be were and talk with them about the hat requirement. Maybe I'd poll other HSM users in my area and find out what they think, and take that info as well to the higher-ups.

JJ

[kcg NC2Ablu]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Says who? You'd better tell that to all-but-one of the Major League umpires that wear a helmet, then. Or officials in other sports that don't wear hats.

Wearing the mask too loosely (and potentially improperly) to squeeze a hat in there is stoopid. The only way that really works inside a helmet is backwards, so the bill can come out the gaps in the back panel. And that would be even worse to look at.

Besides, I keep my hair trimmed very short during baseball season.

as do I but wearing a helmet with a hat does not comprimise the safety of it any more than wearing a mask with a hat

[IceGator8]

Originally Posted by kcg NC2Ablu

so you shouldnt look professional on the field because its an archaic rule? hmmm next you might want to wear jeans on friday night games and brown loafers.... or maybe flip flops depending on who you are

It depends who is the arbiter of what's professional. You can hardly equate not wearing a hat under an HSM with wearing jeans, loafers, or flip flops.

Times change, equipment changes and rules need to change with them. And yes any rule that states you have to wear a hat under an HSM is archaic. Dare I say any such rule is also stupid?

I'm sure there are old umpires somewhere that think we should all be wearing Elbeco shirts because the newer styles are "unprofessional". Maybe we should chuck innovation and go back to working the plate with bubbles because inside protectors look too modern.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by IceGator8

I'm sure there are old umpires somewhere that think we should all be wearing Elbeco shirts because the newer styles are "unprofessional". Maybe we should chuck innovation and go back to working the plate with bubbles because inside protectors look too modern.

I remember a guy like this. He'd get miffed that I owned no Elbecos when I was scheduled to work with him. This was in 1999, when the navy pullover was the default uniform where I lived, but the Elbeco was still an approved shirt. Once the default shirt changed, I gleefully trashed all my Elbecos.

[IceGator8]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I remember a guy like this. He'd get miffed that I owned no Elbecos when I was scheduled to work with him. This was in 1999, when the navy pullover was the default uniform where I lived, but the Elbeco was still an approved shirt. Once the default shirt changed, I gleefully trashed all my Elbecos.

I hated the Elbecos too. The pullovers are such a huge improvement.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Let's put it this way: Ed Hickox looks ridiculous to me. No hats with HSM, period.

[etn_ump]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Let's put it this way: Ed Hickox looks ridiculous to me. No hats with HSM, period.

Steve,

I usually agree with you, but, I completely disagree with you on this one.

An umpire on the field without a hat, IMO, looks terrible. And the hat under the HSM doesn't affect it's fit any more than the hat affects the way the mask fits.

And I do wear a regular mask. I like the HSM, but I choose to wear the mask anytime it is warm.

[kcg NC2Ablu]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Let's put it this way: Ed Hickox looks ridiculous to me. No hats with HSM, period.

maybe you look rediculous to him

[LMan]

Originally Posted by kcg NC2Ablu

If a girl with a pony tail can wear it then we can too. Wearing a hat isnt going to be as obtrusive as a pony tail.... so I agree. wear a 4 stich and give yourself a little more room in your mask

Actually, the HSM I tried *did* hang up on my ponytail, so I went back to the mask. Your mileage may vary....