HSM and Hats

[IceGator8]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I remember a guy like this. He'd get miffed that I owned no Elbecos when I was scheduled to work with him. This was in 1999, when the navy pullover was the default uniform where I lived, but the Elbeco was still an approved shirt. Once the default shirt changed, I gleefully trashed all my Elbecos.

I hated the Elbecos too. The pullovers are such a huge improvement.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Let's put it this way: Ed Hickox looks ridiculous to me. No hats with HSM, period.

[etn_ump]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Let's put it this way: Ed Hickox looks ridiculous to me. No hats with HSM, period.

Steve,

I usually agree with you, but, I completely disagree with you on this one.

An umpire on the field without a hat, IMO, looks terrible. And the hat under the HSM doesn't affect it's fit any more than the hat affects the way the mask fits.

And I do wear a regular mask. I like the HSM, but I choose to wear the mask anytime it is warm.

[IceGator8]

Originally Posted by etn_ump

Steve,

And the hat under the HSM doesn't affect it's fit any more than the hat affects the way the mask fits.

Absolutely, positively untrue.

Wearing a hat with my HSM makes it sit up higher which puts one of the bars right in my line of vision. It also doesn't sit correctly on my chin. My head is 7 1/2 and wearing a hat under my HSM is totally uncomfortable. The metal bit on the top of the hat is also uncomfortable.

[jicecone]

Holy Shockers Batman, we can't use our Elbeco shirts anymore for umpiring.

Oh well, at least they haven't banned them yet at church or funerals.

By the way, does a heather gray tie or navy blue, look better with it.

Robin, calm down and sit back in the pew, and for heavens sake take off your hat under your mask before they realize were umpires and start saying a special mass for us.

[JJ]

[QUOTE=jicecone]
Oh well, at least they haven't banned them yet at church or funerals. [QUOTE]

Last year before a mission trip to Haiti I was told I needed a shirt and tie for Sunday services. The only short sleeved shirt I had that I could wear a tie with was the last Elbeco hanging in my closet. Thank God!

JJ

PS I did get asked about that IHSA patch, though...

[etn_ump]

Originally Posted by IceGator8

Absolutely, positively untrue.

Wearing a hat with my HSM makes it sit up higher which puts one of the bars right in my line of vision. It also doesn't sit correctly on my chin. My head is 7 1/2 and wearing a hat under my HSM is totally uncomfortable. The metal bit on the top of the hat is also uncomfortable.

You're not wearing your HSM right then.

I wear a 7 7/8 hat, use the Easton HSM and have had absolutely no trouble with wearing a hat under the HSM. The hat stays put when the mask comes off and it fits fine.

Everything you described tells me you don't have your HSM fitted right.

[kcg NC2Ablu]

Originally Posted by IceGator8

Wearing a hat which causes an HSM to sit farther from your face negates one of the great advantages of an HSM which is better vision. The reason you can see so much better with an HSM is that it sits closer to your face than a regular mask.

It doesn't do that though.... what about someone who wears a 6 or 8 stich instead of a 4 stich behind the plate with a mask?

[kcg NC2Ablu]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Let's put it this way: Ed Hickox looks ridiculous to me. No hats with HSM, period.

maybe you look rediculous to him

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by kcg NC2Ablu

maybe you look rediculous to him

That's ridiculous, and don't you forget it!

[canadaump6]

Why don't they just customize umpiring hats so that they can be worn under the goalie mask?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by canadaump6

Why don't they just customize umpiring hats so that they can be worn under the goalie mask?

Why should they? They serve no purpose. Under a regular mask, the hat helps keep the mask from sliding down.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

If wearing a hat is most important, use the traditional mask. If wearing the helmet is most important, wear the helmet without the hat. If both are euqally important, wear both.

Unbelievable.

Both the helmet and the mask? It'd be difficult.

I have bigger issues with the helmet. It's bulky and hot and I don't hate the view I get with my current mask. I have a helmet. It rides with me. I haven't used it since April.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

The point is, it's not that major of an issue for all this consternation.

Make a choice and go with it.

Eh, I am just amused at all he passion. And the "rules" that people put in place because they hate the helmet (to discourage people from using it).

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Both the helmet and the mask? It'd be difficult.

Maybe we can get the dude from the other thread who wears the inside protector under his raft to try out the idea.