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JJ Mon Jun 09, 2008 07:37pm

When I started umping 30 years ago I worked the box, or GD, if you will. I switched to the scissors about 15 years ago after getting rocked a few times too often one season - I needed something to "lock me in" better, and the scissors fit the bill. This year I switched back to the GD because it was easier on my hip, but I switched back to the scissors for my final two weekends of the year - a conference tournament and a Regional. It was like riding a bicycle. Next year I hope to go back to the GD and work hard at it to make it as automatic as the scissors for me. There is no "right way" - there's only a "right way for you". Keep working at it until you get comfortable.
Oh, the six umpires in my Regional were split 3-3 with scissors and box.
JJ

DG Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
Where did you hear this?

Signed,

Wally Bell, Tim McClelland, Brian Runge and Joe Brinkman (Okay, so 3 of 4 eventually switched to something else, but you get the point:)).

I get the point, I think, hardly ever used. Is that it?

SanDiegoSteve Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:09am

Quote:

Originally Posted by DG
I get the point, I think, hardly ever used. Is that it?

Close enough. Not only for LL was the point, but close enough.

LMan Tue Jun 10, 2008 08:48am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim C
We all know that the scissor is a slowly dieing stance.

What the future brings will be interesting.

Regards,

Hmmm, what stance will be prescribed for looking at the IR monitor? ;)

RPatrino Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:34am

JJ, if you are using the GD, and you are doing it right, you are locked in. 100% rock solid for every pitch.

JJ Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPatrino
JJ, if you are using the GD, and you are doing it right, you are locked in. 100% rock solid for every pitch.

Let me rephrase, your Honor. I needed something to lock me in DIFFERENTLY, and the scissors provided a different way of doing that.

:D

JJ

jicecone Wed Jun 11, 2008 09:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins
NCAA Softball officials all do things the same way: They are too rigid, too robotic.

NCAA Baseball officials all do things differently: Can't there be any standards?

Lah me.

I quess that is the definition of the same-difference.

Most coaches will probably tell ya that their biggest concern is, "consistency"
."

Looking like a robot, standing, kneeling, scissors, having the right color shirt are all pretty things , but they don't mean squat diddly if you can't make consistent calls in a game and consistent interpretaions from one game to the next.

As already stated here, many styles and paraphanalia differed, but the calls and rules enforcement, were consistent.

SanDiegoSteve Thu Jun 12, 2008 02:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by jicecone
I quess that is the definition of the same-difference.

Most coaches will probably tell ya that their biggest concern is, "consistency"
."

Looking like a robot, standing, kneeling, scissors, having the right color shirt are all pretty things , but they don't mean squat diddly if you can't make consistent calls in a game and consistent interpretaions from one game to the next.

As already stated here, many styles and paraphanalia differed, but the calls and rules enforcement, were consistent.

Unfortunately, in many cases the umpiring is very consistent...consistently bad!


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