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greymule Thu Jun 05, 2008 03:57pm

Rising fastball
 
Watching the Yankees–Blue Jays game this afternoon.

Yankee announcer Michael Kay just informed the viewing audience that some people think a fastball cannot rise, but "that last fastball definitely went up."

Just thought you all ought to know.

Adam Thu Jun 05, 2008 04:51pm

Well, if an announcer said it, it must be so.

Welpe Thu Jun 05, 2008 05:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Well, if an announcer said it, it must be so.

Kind of like the "Dream Ticket", you know, Jay Bilas and Billy Packer.

etn_ump Thu Jun 05, 2008 05:24pm

Miracles (and defying the laws of physics) happen every day!

lawump Thu Jun 05, 2008 05:27pm

As an longtime poster on this board:

Good God, please lock this thread NOW...before it gets out of hand.

Welpe Thu Jun 05, 2008 05:31pm

Oh come on law, there are plenty of new folks such as myself that haven't experienced the rising fastball wars. :o

voiceoflg Fri Jun 06, 2008 08:43am

What was his pregame drink?

Adam Fri Jun 06, 2008 08:53am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe
Kind of like the "Dream Ticket", you know, Jay Bilas and Billy Packer.

Put Gottlieb in for Bilas, and you've got a nightmare ticket.

LakeErieUmp Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:16am

Actually Welpe, we can help the newbies along with a medley of recent threads! Perhaps it was a rising fastball that hit PU in the mask, but because of the batter's backswing the issue now becomes how many bases. I guess we need instant replay to figure it out.
None of which would have happened if PU had pleated pants.

David Emerling Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:17am

Quote:

Originally Posted by greymule
Watching the Yankees–Blue Jays game this afternoon.

Yankee announcer Michael Kay just informed the viewing audience that some people think a fastball cannot rise, but "that last fastball definitely went up."

Just thought you all ought to know.

There's a great book entitled The Physics of Baseball written by physicist and baseball enthusiast, Robert K. Adair Ph.D. that, among other interesting issues, addresses the "rising" fastball. A baseball pitcher cannot make it rise. On the other hand, a softball pitcher can mostly due to the delivery technique and the short distance between the rubber and plate.

There was a great baseball article in Popular Mechanics, of all places, many years ago that gave a very technical explanation of the physics of various pitches.

To quote from the article:
The laws of aerodynamics tell us that for a baseball to physically rise (that is, curve upward) as it approaches the batter, the Magnus force would have to be greater than the weight of the ball, and the rate of spin required to generate this much force is far beyond the ability of any pitcher. Thus, the rising fastball is an optical illusion. The baseball simply falls less than the batter expects it to.

David Emerling
Memphis, TN

mbyron Fri Jun 06, 2008 07:25pm

Well, that should settle it.

UmpJM Fri Jun 06, 2008 08:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron
Well, that should settle it.

Troublemaker. ;)

JM

BigUmp56 Fri Jun 06, 2008 08:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by greymule
Watching the Yankees–Blue Jays game this afternoon.

Yankee announcer Michael Kay just informed the viewing audience that some people think a fastball cannot rise, but "that last fastball definitely went up."

Just thought you all ought to know.

Day game or night game?

He-he.................it's been a while since we discussed velocity vectors on the forum. This should be fun!


Tim.

UmpJM Fri Jun 06, 2008 08:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigUmp56
Day game or night game?

He-he.................it's been a while since we discussed velocity vectors on the forum. This should be fun!


Tim.

Ibid. Damn Jesuits!

JM

BigUmp56 Fri Jun 06, 2008 08:12pm

Mr. Bernoulli................paging Mr. Bernoulli.............


Tim.


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