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waltjp Fri Jun 06, 2008 08:18pm

When I was a kid we used to play sandlot games (remember them?) at some picnic grounds near my house. The grounds were fairly flat with the exception of the area near home plate, which started to slope up a bit of a hill. Man, you should have seen us back then... rising fastballs, rising curve balls, rising sinker balls, you name it!

BigUmp56 Fri Jun 06, 2008 08:20pm

It's amazing what a wiffle ball can do, Walt!


Tim.

SAump Sat Jun 07, 2008 01:12pm

Rising fastballers
 
Look at the recent list of MLB, pitchers clocked over 100-mph. http://www.baseball-almanac.com/arti...baseball.shtml With a few exceptions, the pitchers have all made the list within the last 12 years. Data is slowly disappearing, thanks to the good folks at ESPN.
Notice many missing talented flame-throwers from MLB pre-steroid eras. Where are the pitchers from 1970 to 1995 who were on the list just 3 years ago? How come the big dawgs, like Tom Seaver or Dwight Gooden, are no longer listed?

Tim C Sat Jun 07, 2008 03:50pm

~Sigh~
 
"Can a pitcher then throw a "doctored" rising fastball? I pose the following situation.
The key is each catch, fly ball, line drive or grounder changes the shape of the ball.
The ball develops a flat spot, the catcher adds "ointment" from his new glove, the back stop adds a fence link indentation, etc.
All of a sudden the pitcher flares a rising fastball. Doesn't it seems probable?"


You have lost this battle for about four years . . . ever going to give up?

Regards,

Steve M Sat Jun 07, 2008 07:34pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigUmp56
Mr. Bernoulli................paging Mr. Bernoulli.............


Tim.

:D I think he got sent to the principle's office":D

waltjp Sat Jun 07, 2008 09:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAump
Can a pitcher then throw a "doctored" rising fastball? I pose the following situation.
The key is each catch, fly ball, line drive or grounder changes the shape of the ball.
The ball develops a flat spot, the catcher adds "ointment" from his new glove, the back stop adds a fence link indentation, etc.
All of a sudden the pitcher flares a rising fastball. Doesn't it seems probable?

The average lifespan of a major league baseball is about 6 pitches. That doesn't leave much time for much doctoring.

mbyron Sun Jun 08, 2008 07:56am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve M
:D I think he got sent to the principle's office":D

You know, I see this error so much, it took me .025 seconds to catch the pun. Nice work. :)

Rich Thu Jun 19, 2008 06:42am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve M
:D I think he got sent to the principle's office":D

I have some colleagues who have business cards showing that they are "Principle Consultants." Yikes.

greymule Thu Jun 19, 2008 09:08am

WESTLAKE, Ohio, June 6, 2008 — A Cleveland-area principal says he is embarrassed his students got proof of their "educaiton" on their high school diploma.

Westlake High School officials misspelled "education" on the diplomas distributed this weekend. It's been the subject of mockery on local radio.

Principal Timothy Freeman says he sent the diplomas back once to correct another error. When the corrected diplomas came back, no one bothered to check the things they thought were right the first time.

Publisher Jostens has reprinted the new diplomas—a third attempt—and sent them to the 330 graduates.


[Note that the newspaper knows the correct form of principal.]

I just edited a paper for an Ivy League professor and corrected affect/effect, complimentary/complementary, is comprised of/comprises, and led/lead, the last error, common today, being "the study was lead by Professor XXX." The term principal investigator is used so often in research proposals that the writers usually spell that form of principal correctly, but sometimes even the people with a dozen advanced degrees use it where principle belongs (e.g., . . . based on the principal that . . .).

People new to this forum might enjoy a "rising fastball" thread from two years ago: http://forum.officiating.com/showthr...=richard+miles

kylejt Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:16am

I think the speed needed for normal MLB baseball, without scuffed up seams, to rise was a little over 180mph.

bigda65 Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:18am

Kyle,

Forget speed -- with big enough wings anything will rise


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