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UMP25 Mon Apr 14, 2008 08:05pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron
What's a "foul home run"? :rolleyes:

Cripes. Don't tell me you had no idea what I meant. :rolleyes:

UMP25 Mon Apr 14, 2008 08:06pm

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Originally Posted by ozzy6900
Hey UMP25, I saw the game also. It took 6 IR's before any of us were sure that the ball was in fact foul. The only ones that really knew were the fans sitting right there. In all fairness, the original shot from the camera behind home late is pretty much what the 3rd base umpire had and it looked fair for 3 IR's. Only when the focused the shot on the foul pole did we see that it was a foul ball and that was the 6th IR! We only get a split second and sometimes we are wrong!

I seriously think that there is too much to focus on in MLB parks when looking at the foul poles.

I saw only one replay, and that indicated the ball was clearly foul.

ozzy6900 Tue Apr 15, 2008 06:56am

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Originally Posted by UMP25
I saw only one replay, and that indicated the ball was clearly foul.

Hmmm! We may have been on 2 different stations or feeds. There were 6 replays on the FOX Chicago channel I was watching. I normally don't get to watch the Cubs as that channel is normally blacked out to me. It was the only open channel on Saturday so I watched just to see some baseball. Anyway, the end result is that even with a "board meeting", the wrong decision was rendered. :rolleyes:

UMP25 Tue Apr 15, 2008 09:01am

Indeed.

kcmasterpiece Thu Apr 17, 2008 06:12pm

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Originally Posted by CO ump
Many times partners will have some sign they give to their partner in certain situations to let them know they may have pertinent information that may be useful.
When given this sign the calling ump may or may not choose to get it or use it.
For a PU to force a conference on a judgement call made by U1 is uncalled for and absolutely inappropriate.

Another disturbing part of the OP is this:
It's one thing to be in B or C position, miss a pulled foot and feel a need to ask PU for help.
It's quite another to rule and signal pulled foot, make a safe call and then change the call.
You either saw the pulled foot or you didn't. If you indicate pulled foot then you darn well have better seen the pulled foot. If you saw the pulled foot there is no way PU should be able to change your mind nor should he even try.

Amen! If you saw daylight and called the pulled foot, why change the call?


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