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Rich Ives Wed Apr 16, 2008 06:20pm

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Originally Posted by TussAgee11
As a veteran umpire in my association says,

"That waving fake bunt thing will open up my strike zone by an acre or two."

Another person making it up as he goes along.

TussAgee11 Wed Apr 16, 2008 06:49pm

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives
Another person making it up as he goes along.

Nah, he's just a joker when you sit down and have a few with him. It is ok to smile sometimes you know :)

MrUmpire Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:16pm

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Originally Posted by rngrck
Are batters allowed to extend any part of the fore arms and/or hands across the plane of the plate while the pitch is in motion?

Yes.

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ruling?
None needed unless he gets hit.

mbyron Thu Apr 17, 2008 07:18am

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Originally Posted by TussAgee11
Nah, he's just a joker when you sit down and have a few with him. It is ok to smile sometimes you know :)

Sure, but irony doesn't always come across on the internet. You might know better, but someone might read your post and think, "OK, I can change the strike zone in some situations."

Also, in my experience the people who say stuff like this are only half joking.

TussAgee11 Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:44am

10-4 on the internet thing. Perhaps some smileys would have lightened the mood of the post.

For the record: do not open up the strike zone by an acre or two. Just make a mental note that waving a bat in the strike zone doesn't belong in a baseball game, but nothing you can do to stop him from doing it.

Kind of like my favorite New York Ranger screening the goaltender by facing him and waving his stick in his face... but that is a discussion for the hockey board :)

SanDiegoSteve Fri Apr 18, 2008 01:12am

I would not change the strikezone, but I would secretly wish in my heart that the pitcher would nail the batter on the forearm with a fastball.

mbyron Fri Apr 18, 2008 07:22am

Yes, and in the strike zone, too, so we get a dead ball strike and runners return.

Rich Fri Apr 18, 2008 07:26am

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives
Another person making it up as he goes along.

Maybe so, but I guarantee this happens. The better question is: What baseball purpose does waving the bat accomplish?

Rich Ives Fri Apr 18, 2008 08:13am

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Originally Posted by RichMSN
Maybe so, but I guarantee this happens. The better question is: What baseball purpose does waving the bat accomplish?


What baseball purpose does a deceptive pickoff move accomplish?

What baseball purpose does the hidden ball trick accomplish?

What baseball purpose does the skunk play accomplish?

What baseball purpose does a fielder asking a runner to step off the base so he can clean it accomplish?

What baseball purpose does showing bunt then hitting away accomplish?

What baseball purpose does the Miami play accomplish?

Trying to gain an edge. Legal. Live with it.

ozzy6900 Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:41am

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives
What baseball purpose does a deceptive pickoff move accomplish?

What baseball purpose does the hidden ball trick accomplish?

What baseball purpose does the skunk play accomplish?

What baseball purpose does a fielder asking a runner to step off the base so he can clean it accomplish?

What baseball purpose does showing bunt then hitting away accomplish?

What baseball purpose does the Miami play accomplish?

Trying to gain an edge. Legal. Live with it.

Actually Rich, all of your examples really do accomplish something. They either get you an out or throw off the defense (and all are of course, legal). Let me also add that all but the Miami play are rooted in "Old Tyme" baseball. But I agree with the question "What does waving or waggling the bat really accomplish?"

Rich Ives Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:50am

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Originally Posted by ozzy6900
Actually Rich, all of your examples really do accomplish something. They either get you an out or throw off the defense (and all are of course, legal). Let me also add that all but the Miami play are rooted in "Old Tyme" baseball. But I agree with the question "What does waving or waggling the bat really accomplish?"

To quote you: "throw off the defense".

The defense has a way of handling it if it bothers them.

Rich Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:57am

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives
To quote you: "throw off the defense".

The defense has a way of handling it if it bothers them.

What, throw at the batter?

Rich Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:58am

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives
Another person making it up as he goes along.

It just bothers you that there isn't a thing you can do about it.

Rich Ives Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:26am

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Originally Posted by RichMSN
It just bothers you that there isn't a thing you can do about it.


:D The catcher can set up for an outside curve ball and the pitcher can throw a high fast ball.

Do you think it's OK for an umpire to impose his personal point of view on the game? If so, why?

Varitek swings his bat while the catcher is giving signs. Thome points his. Manny does a Statue of Liberty imitation. NO ONE CARES! Why should you?

I coach. I have to see it from both the offensive and defensive perspective. It's not a one-sided view.

Rich Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:23pm

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives
:D The catcher can set up for an outside curve ball and the pitcher can throw a high fast ball.

Warm up the bus.


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