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Originally Posted by Cub42

But it might get addressed someday when religion doesnt have so much clout both politically and psycologically

We've been waiting for this day for thousands of years. What makes you think that day is EVER coming?

"Sure, speak away. Hope you don't mind if I listen to some Ludacris at 120db while you do."

In the minor league park near where I live, there's a reminder that only umpires and club officials are permitted in the umpire's locker room.

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when religion doesnt have so much clout both politically and psyc[h]ologically

There is nothing in the entirety of human experience to suggest there will ever be a "when."

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Originally Posted by rookieblue

There is nothing in the entirety of human experience to suggest there will ever be a "when."

Thank God and amen to that!

Pedro Cerrano: Bats, they are sick. I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. I ask Jobu to come, take fear from bats. I offer him cigar, rum. He will come.
Eddie Harris: You know you might think about taking Jesus Christ as your savior instead of fooling around with all this stuff.
Roger Dorn: ****, Harris.
Pedro Cerrano: Jesus, I like him very much, but he no help with curveball.
Eddie Harris: You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?

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Originally Posted by Tim C

JR:

And, of course, I would have been released by the PBUA as a "trouble maker."

Regards,

You? A trouble maker???

Never! :p

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Originally Posted by GarthB

I wonder why the AMLU hasn't represented its membership in this issue.

Hi Garth:

Just wondering since your son is attending school if he mentioned anything about the OP to you

Thanks

Pete Booth

One of our umpires spent time in the minors and just left the game. Here's his account of the Baseball Chapel:

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I read the article and it wasn't as bad as he biitched and moaned about. I know Josh and he is no good. The guy was always complaining about this and that, and it wasn't for the benefit of all umpires, but just for himself. I would guess at most half of the cities over my 7years had baseball chapel come to the umpires' room. They always visited the players, but not consistently with the umpires. Just like everything else, baseball forgets about the umpires, baseball chapel forgot about the umpires a majority of the time. In 2003, there was a Jewish guy on my crew, and we would tell the rep. from Baseball Chapel that he was Jewish. The guy then would talk about God in genera land not about Christianity vs. Judaism. Also, I know a lot of umpires who didn't want to meet with B.C., so they would leave the umpire room for 5 or 10 minutes (MAX). When he cries about having to leave the room in Columbus and walk among the fans while B.C. was visiting, we all had to do it one time or another. 99.99% of the people didn't know who the umpires were, so it wasn't a big deal. He is just complaining because of sour grapes for being released. After 3+years in AAA and no AZ. Fall League, umpires below him should be complaining about him taking a spot, because he had no chance of doing MLB games.

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Originally Posted by UMP25

One of our umpires spent time in the minors and just left the game. Here's his account of the Baseball Chapel:

"And the wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round..."

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Originally Posted by PeteBooth

Hi Garth:

Just wondering since your son is attending school if he mentioned anything about the OP to you

Thanks

Pete Booth

Pete: Matt attended school last year. He spent last season working in the AZL, one of the rookie leagues. He tells me that he has heard of the baseball chapel, but that they were not active in Arizona. He might see them this year.

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Originally Posted by UMP25

One of our umpires spent time in the minors and just left the game. Here's his account of the Baseball Chapel: I read the article and it wasn't as bad as he biitched and moaned about. I know Josh and he is no good.

Ahhhhh the internet. Ain't it great.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

We know Josh's name. He was not afraid to put it out there. If this person you quoted is going to disparage Josh, then we should know his name. Otherwise this umpire has no credibility.

He has complete credibility. I've worked with him; I know him. He's regarded as one of the best umpires in the Midwest. If I had even a scintilla of doubt about his honesty or credibility, I would never have even mentioned it in the first place. My sharing it here is good enough.

BTW, I wouldn't call his comments about Josh disparaging unless you're willing to call Josh's comments about the Baseball Chapel equally disparaging.

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Also, I know a lot of umpires who didn't want to meet with B.C., so they would leave the umpire room for 5 or 10 minutes (MAX). When he cries about having to leave the room in Columbus and walk among the fans while B.C. was visiting, we all had to do it one time or another. 99.99% of the people didn't know who the umpires were, so it wasn't a big deal.

Was there equal time? How often did the BC folks and the umpires interested in hearing their message go out among the fans so the uninterested umpires could be alone in the room?

I personally would prefer that such individuals not enter the locker room every Sunday. If I choose to go to church, I'd prefer to do so on my own. Having said that, one must also remember that the New York Times is a very anti-religious, ultraleft-wing publication, so such articles will always carry a biased point of view.

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Originally Posted by UMP25

one must also remember that the New York Times is a very anti-religious, ultraleft-wing publication, so such articles will always carry a biased point of view.

You think the NY times is ULTRA left wing? You've lived a shetered life, my friend. I've seen left wing papers that make the Old Gray Lady look downright respectable.