Roger Clemens

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Of course he was. That is why he has a motivation to give them what they want. Either way it goes, none of us know the truth. But to make it sound like he could not be lying because he does not have a motive is silly. When you are given immunity, it is done so the government gets what they really want. McNamee is not who they are going after.

And if you listened to the phone conversation, it was clear McNamee was trying to apologize to Roger for what he had done. If you are telling the truth, why apologize?

Peace

If you listened to the phone conversation, at no time does McNamee say he lied, misled or did anyting but tell the truth....and he was not aware that Roger was taping.

Why apologize? He has caused a friend distress. Even when telling the truth, when one see the result has hurt someone close, they often apololgize. They are apologizing for the pain, not for saying what they said.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by GarthB

If you listened to the phone conversation, at no time does McNamee say he lied, misled or did anyting but tell the truth....and he was not aware that Roger was taping.

You are right, he was apologizing and asking Roger what he wanted him to do. He even talked about how grateful he was and how he was treated. And all Roger kept asking him was to tell the truth. In no way did McNamee say you took steroids or implied that he took any steroids. That does not sound like a person that is telling the truth in a conversation about the situation both men are in.

Originally Posted by GarthB

Why apologize? He has caused a friend distress. Even when telling the truth, when one see the result has hurt someone close, they often apololgize. They are apologizing for the pain, not for saying what they said.

I guess we all can look at it any way we like. But when someone is telling the truth, I tend to not believe people that are apologizing for it. Or at the very least say you told the truth the entire time. He even asked Roger, "Do you want me to go to jail for me?" Why would you ask that if you are telling the truth. That sound like his word is up for sale to me.

Peace

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

...And all Roger kept asking him was to tell the truth. ...

And, of course, Clemens knew he was acting for the recording. McNamee thought he was talking to a friend in distress. Clemens knew he was laying a trap. Of course Clemens would say what he said, but McNamee didn't respond in any way that would indicate he was lying, even though he had every reason to believe the conversation was private.

He said he would go to jail for his friend, which to me means he was saying he would be willing to NOW lie, refuting his earlier testimony and giving up his immunity. At least that is an equally plausible way to interpret the conversation.