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Old Mon Dec 31, 2007, 12:31am
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Not planning on attending until next year, but thanks for the info.

Maybe I should go twice because I bet Jim's war stories are good
They are GREAT! My favorite: Pam Postema (female made it to AAA) punched a guy out on strikes. He turned around and said FU! Her IMMEDIATE response: "You'll have to make it 11:30. I have the catcher at 10."
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I don't get it, but maybe cause its close to 1am.

My pure point of the post is to correct what I said. I plan on attending in two years, not one (Jan 2010), just so I don't get called out on it come next December
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Thanks for posting tips on how to get the most out of professional umpire schooling. While I was thinking of going in winter semester of 2009, I might end up going once I have finished (school.) One part of me wants to not interrupt school, the other part really wants to get down there and learn things sooner as opposed to later.

So a few questions. How often is it that an umpire will go to school more than once? What is the cameraderie like? Do guys tend to be supportive, or are there bitter rivalries? I find it amazing that anybody would consider going to the hotel bar knowing that Jim Evans would be there. How could anyone think sitting in on him and the veteran instructors and listening to their war stories would be a good idea? Wouldn't that just bug them? There must be umpires who are the laughingstock of the class because of their unprofessionalism. How much down time can one expect to get?
first, if you have started post-high school education and you are going to umpire school looking for a job finish your education first. only 1% of guys that start in profrssional ball make it to the show, so you need something to fall back on.

there are always a few guys in each calss that have attended before. i was one of them. there are many reasons why they come back. i got hurt my first year and missed to much time to be considered for a spot to PBUC. other guys may be slower to pick things up but feel that they had come on strong at the end of the session and think they may be able to get a job if they attend again. others are simply dillusional. whatever the case may be, if you are a second year student, you are expected to be head and shoulders above the rest. day one of training for everyone else is day one of week 6 for the second year student.

the camaraderie is what you make it. i made life-long friends at umpire school, both as a student and as an instructor...and both professional umpires and guys that didn;t make it. my roommate my second year was 50+, was married, had a family, and was just there to better himself as an umpire. i have remained in contact with him. his family has come to visit me on the road, he sends care packages, and things like that. if you want to make friends, you can make ones that will last forever. everybody that attends the school shares the common bond of the love of umpiring.

as far as being supportive or seeking out rivialries is concerned, it is, again, what you make it. there is evidence of both every year. jimmy repeatedly uses the analogy of trying to climb up a ladder. the guys that climb at a slow, steady pace make it to the top quicker than the guys that take time to try and kick the people behind them down off of the ladder.

i, too, find it amazing the number of guys that sit in the bar at the hotel every year. while i'm sure it makes for great story time with jim, you aren;t there for story time, you're there to get a job. if, however, you aren't there to get a job, the yarns he spins during these sessions would likely be of interest. veteran instructors do not hang out in the hotel bar. in fact, it's often tough to find the instructors at night if you don't know exactly wjere to look. if you did happen to know where to look, you are probably doing the wrong thing.

there usually are a couple of "that guys" each year. don't be "that guy." sometimes they know who they are, and other times they are so oblivious to the fact that it's even more amusing.

the down time issue is another "what you make of it" type of thing. class starts promptly at 8am. if you arrive at 8, you are late. you have an hour at lunch, and then class gets out between 5 and 6. dinner is served at the hotel from 6-7:30. the video review room is open from 7-9 or 7-10. you don't have to use the review room if you don't want. there is no structure to the evenings. once you leave the complex, you are on your own until 8am the next day. you usually will have some homework to do, and there is always studying to keep you occupied, but there is time at night to do other things if that is what you want to do.
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I don't get it, but maybe cause its close to 1am.
Then you will be getting sloppy thirds!
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bumped...cuz it's that time of year again.
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They are GREAT! My favorite: Pam Postema (female made it to AAA) punched a guy out on strikes. He turned around and said FU! Her IMMEDIATE response: "You'll have to make it 11:30. I have the catcher at 10."
Haha yeah Jim told me that in Jersey this past November. With the number of years experience between Jim and Sarge, I bet there are different stories in that bar every night.
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Haha yeah Jim told me that in Jersey this past November. With the number of years experience between Jim and Sarge, I bet there are different stories in that bar every night.
I was at the same clinic. It's a good thing I'm too old to have any chance at pro ball. I don't think I could NOT hang out at the hotel bar with Jim to hear the war stories. To me, that alone is well worth the price of the clinic.
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Old Mon Dec 31, 2007, 03:48pm
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I'm goin down with two older guys from my association who hopefully will relay some of those stories to me cause I will be staying a good distance away
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They are GREAT! My favorite: Pam Postema (female made it to AAA) punched a guy out on strikes. He turned around and said FU! Her IMMEDIATE response: "You'll have to make it 11:30. I have the catcher at 10."
A year later...

I get it.
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Old Mon Dec 22, 2008, 08:39pm
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Would the play-by-play you just gave for the Evans school be the same for the Wendelstedt school? Could you give us an evaluation or comparison on what the Wendelstedt school is like from what you have heard? If you do not know that much about Harry's school is there anyone else who could give the same evaluation about Harry's school. Could someone also give us some differences between the 2 schools without making disparaging remarks about either school. Just a good evaluation or comparison of both schools with their differences will be greatly appreciated. This question is not meant to try and prove which one is best per say, but just to find out the strengths and weaknesses (probably not any weaknesses anyway) and differences of both. Thanks.

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Old Mon Dec 22, 2008, 09:00pm
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A year later...

I get it.
Tuss,

Well, I guess you've had a very, let's just say "educational" year.

BTW, what's the skinny on the bear? Thought you might know more than what was reported in the national media.

I hope you're taking bobbybanaduck's advice about finishing school first to heart when you say you're waiting until 2010 - that's advice you can take to the bank.

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Old Tue Dec 23, 2008, 02:10pm
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Pam Postema (female made it to AAA) punched a guy out on strikes. He turned around and said FU! Her IMMEDIATE response: "You'll have to make it 11:30. I have the catcher at 10."
The word was, she most likely wasn't kidding.
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The word was, she most likely wasn't kidding.
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