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Old Thu Nov 08, 2007, 11:04am
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I do not see the Umpires as having much say in the matter if both the owners and players union approve.
They may have contractual right of approval.

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I am not certain but if the GM's voted 25-5 then it stands to reason that for all practical purposes the owners have already given their vote of confidence.
Not necessarily. It wouldn't be the first time that owners voted the opposite of the GM's.


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Therefore, all that is left is for the players union to agree and then it is a done deal.
Perhaps.
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Old Wed Nov 07, 2007, 10:09am
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Personally, I'd hate to see IR. Baseball just does not lend itself well to this. The games are long enough as it is with out IR.

I'm afraid that once the door is open other plays will be subject to review as well taking the human element out of the game.
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Old Wed Nov 07, 2007, 11:05am
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My only real question is this: unlike football, where a team has to use a timeout to challenge something--and said timeout is not "used" if they win the challenge--how would this be done in baseball without totally reworking the rules? Would it be done via a challenge? If not, how? Methinks this is something that must be worked out if I.R. is gonna work at all.
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Old Wed Nov 07, 2007, 11:36am
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My only real question is this: unlike football, where a team has to use a timeout to challenge something--and said timeout is not "used" if they win the challenge--how would this be done in baseball without totally reworking the rules? Would it be done via a challenge? If not, how? Methinks this is something that must be worked out if I.R. is gonna work at all.
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If the replay does not result in a change of the call, the calling umpire gets to kick the skipper who appealed the play in the balls.
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Old Wed Nov 07, 2007, 05:26pm
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My only real question is this: unlike football, where a team has to use a timeout to challenge something--and said timeout is not "used" if they win the challenge--how would this be done in baseball without totally reworking the rules? Would it be done via a challenge? If not, how? Methinks this is something that must be worked out if I.R. is gonna work at all.
It is hardly a big deal. Managers ask all the time for an umpire to get some help....a TV review of a ball in the stands or fair/foul is just a logical extension of that request.

The NBA and NHL already review plays without a coach request.
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Old Wed Nov 07, 2007, 09:09pm
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It is hardly a big deal. Managers ask all the time for an umpire to get some help....
Here's what makes it, if not a big deal, then certainly a "trickier" deal: While a manager might ask for help, we are not necessarily always obliged to seek it.

If IR slips in, there has to be some mechanism to determine when it would be used. Would it be used at the request of the manager or the discretion of the umpires?
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Old Thu Nov 08, 2007, 02:19pm
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Here's what makes it, if not a big deal, then certainly a "trickier" deal: While a manager might ask for help, we are not necessarily always obliged to seek it.

If IR slips in, there has to be some mechanism to determine when it would be used. Would it be used at the request of the manager or the discretion of the umpires?
It could be either.
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Old Wed Nov 07, 2007, 03:20pm
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Here comes the Tpo Four "Reasons" to not have IR.

Woops, I mean the Tpo Four Whines About IR.

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Personally, I'd hate to see IR.
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Baseball just does not lend itself well to this.
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The games are long enough as it is with out IR.
Now we get to the real point, it might put piss poor umpires out of work, make them look (more) foolish than they ae...ad infinitum.

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I'm afraid that once the door is open other plays will be subject to review as well taking the human element out of the game.
Yes, next will come "Do yo want robot PUs and blah blah blah
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