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UMP25 Fri Nov 02, 2007 09:35pm

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Originally Posted by fitump56
I hope she sues b/c it will be the only way to find out if she was dumped b/c she was a woman.

What a bunch of illogical crap. If she has no evidence of illegal gender discrimination, then she mustn't sue. One doesn't sue to find out if something was wrong; rather, one sues because something was wrong.

Get off your soapbox, Ms. Alred. Just because the only female umpire was released doesn't mean there was illegal discrimination.

gordon30307 Sat Nov 03, 2007 01:34pm

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Originally Posted by UMP25
What a bunch of illogical crap. If she has no evidence of illegal gender discrimination, then she mustn't sue. One doesn't sue to find out if something was wrong; rather, one sues because something was wrong.

Get off your soapbox, Ms. Alred. Just because the only female umpire was released doesn't mean there was illegal discrimination.

Sometimes the only way to find out if something is wrong is if you do indeed file suit. Even then you can be right and lose or you can be wrong and win.:eek: :eek:

UMP25 Sat Nov 03, 2007 01:41pm

If Ria believes something was wrong, let her get an investigator or let her dig around herself and try to find out. Filing a lawsuit when one has no foundation on which to base said suit is just another waste of the judicial system's time.

gordon30307 Sat Nov 03, 2007 01:51pm

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Originally Posted by UMP25
If Ria believes something was wrong, let her get an investigator or let her dig around herself and try to find out. Filing a lawsuit when one has no foundation on which to base said suit is just another waste of the judicial system's time.

Perhaps Ria can't afford to hire a PI. This shouldn't prevent her from filing. Would you requirw this of a homeless person who was wronged in some way?:confused:

UMP25 Sat Nov 03, 2007 01:56pm

And hiring a lawyer to sue is free? Get real. An attorney is going to be more expensive than hiring a P.I.

And your homeless analogy is equally as illogical. How's a homeless person going to afford an attorney to sue, huh?

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Originally Posted by gordon30307
Would you requirw this of a homeless person who was wronged in some way?

You betcha. If said person wants to sue, it's HIS responsibility to pay for said suit and its accompanying costs! There exists no right that says he's entitled to free legal representation.

BigTex Sat Nov 03, 2007 02:51pm

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Originally Posted by UMP25
There exists no right that says he's entitled to free legal representation.


Actually there is exactly that, it is called contingency. It costs nothing to sue someone claiming personal injury (be it an actual physical injury or other). The fees are paid AFTER a settlement,and are a percentage of it. If there is no settlement, there are no attorney fees. With all that being said, a suit will not let everyone know anything resembling the truth, the terms of the settlement will be protected, and everyone will be jubject to a gag order. So, if she does sue, it will just fuel the fire for more people who don't know anything to speculate more.



edited for grammar

SAump Sat Nov 03, 2007 07:12pm

Make believe
 
What are the odds the catcher who let her get drilled ends up in the lawsuit, if there ever was one, to make the emotional argument turn in her favor?

Okay perhaps, there is never going to be a lawsuit there. How about a movie to follow that book deal? The ball is in her "court" now.

bobbybanaduck Sat Nov 03, 2007 07:22pm

i never told her that he said that

UMP25 Sat Nov 03, 2007 07:40pm

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Originally Posted by BigTex
Actually there is exactly that, it is called contingency. It costs nothing to sue someone claiming personal injury (be it an actual physical injury or other).

Wrong. There is not "exactly that." It's not that at all. It's NOT a right; and contingencies are not free. Money must still be expended regardless of the outcome. Because of the risk, attorneys' fees are usually higher in such cases.

Again, no one has a right to legal representation in a lawsuit. You're on your own financially or otherwise.

UMP25 Sat Nov 03, 2007 07:41pm

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Originally Posted by bobbybanaduck
i never told her that he said that

But that could always come out in discovery. I'd love to be in on the deposition on that one!

fitump56 Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:32pm

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Originally Posted by UMP25
What a bunch of illogical crap. If she has no evidence of illegal gender discrimination, then she mustn't sue. One doesn't sue to find out if something was wrong; rather, one sues because something was wrong.

One word, look it up. The legal definition of:

D-I-S-C-O-V-E-R-Y

SanDiegoSteve Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:35pm

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Originally Posted by bobbybanaduck
i never told her that he said that

You mean Ria doesn't know how to read an umpire forum?:confused:

fitump56 Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:39pm

Originally Posted by fitump56
I hope she sues b/c it will be the only way to find out if she was dumped b/c she was a woman.

Quote:

Originally Posted by UMP25
Get off your soapbox, Ms. Alred. Just because the only female umpire was released doesn't mean there was illegal discrimination.

Which part of "find out" did you set in your concrete head as "guilty of discrimination"?

UMP25 Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:10pm

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Originally Posted by fitump56
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I hope she sues b/c it will be the only way to find out if she was dumped b/c she was a woman.

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One word, look it up. The legal definition of:

D-I-S-C-O-V-E-R-Y

Your circular (il)logic is amusing.

UMP25 Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:10pm

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Originally Posted by fitump56
Originally Posted by fitump56
I hope she sues b/c it will be the only way to find out if she was dumped b/c she was a woman.



Which part of "find out" did you set in your concrete head as "guilty of discrimination"?

Get off your soapbox already, Ms. Alred.


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