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JRutledge Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:37am

Let me let you in on a little secret.
 
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Originally Posted by jimpiano
At least no one got hurt.

And it certainly did not affect the D-Backs. Their offense is non-existent, rain or shine.

And it did not have much of an effect, either, on MLB baseball anemic TV ratings since the NFL game on NBC crushed basbeall.

Which is another reason to postpone a game that does nothing to showcase post peason baseball and move it to a night with out the NFL as competition.

You would have had two skip to days then. On Monday the NFL plays football as well. Unless they would play the game at 1:00 in the afternoon, they would compete with the NFL today. :rolleyes:

Peace

jimpiano Mon Oct 15, 2007 02:42pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
You would have had two skip to days then. On Monday the NFL plays football as well. Unless they would play the game at 1:00 in the afternoon, they would compete with the NFL today. :rolleyes:

Peace

No.

Tonight games in both playoffs are already scheduled. 7pm and 10 pm Eastern.

Game Five in the NLCS , if there is one , is set for Wednesay in Denver, with a day off on Tuesday, and if Arizona wins tonight and on Wednesday there would be ANOTHER day off on Thursday before games six and seven back in Phoenix.

Why MLB intentionally built in days off for weather concerns and then did not use them is a mystery.

JRutledge Mon Oct 15, 2007 03:06pm

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Originally Posted by jimpiano
No.

Tonight games in both playoffs are already scheduled. 7pm and 10 pm Eastern.

The NFL is still playing tonight right? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by jimpiano
Game Five in the NLCS , if there is one , is set for Wednesay in Denver, with a day off on Tuesday, and if Arizona wins tonight and on Wednesday there would be ANOTHER day off on Thursday before games six and seven back in Phoenix.

The NFL would not be playing on Wednesday. The NFL does not play on Wednesday. Is there a point here?

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Originally Posted by jimpiano
Why MLB intentionally built in days off for weather concerns and then did not use them is a mystery.

The day off is for travel, not weather. There is a built in travel day for every game between sites. The only time they would not use the travel day is during the 5 game series and if a game is rained out. The game was not rained out and they played. Life will go on.

Peace

UMP25 Mon Oct 15, 2007 03:41pm

Actually, JR, the schedule this year is different because of television and not travel and/or weather. Normally, the only off days for travel for both the ALCS and the NLCS are between games 2 and 3 and games 5 and 6.

Since TBS took over this year and MLB preferred to maximize prime time viewing, the only way to do this was to break up the middle of each series so that when one was traveling the other was playing, and vice versa.

JRutledge Mon Oct 15, 2007 03:56pm

I will admit that I have not been paying that close attention to the schedule, especially at this time of year.

TV has always taken precedent in these situations so that more people can see the game. People were complaining that they could not see certain games during the first round of playoffs. This is the reason the Super Bowl has been moved from an afternoon game to an evening extravaganza.

Peace

SanDiegoSteve Mon Oct 15, 2007 04:21pm

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This is the reason the Super Bowl has been moved from an afternoon game to an evening extravaganza.

Except out here on the West Coast, where it remains an afternoon extravaganza. Kickoff is usually around 3:40 PST.:)

jimpiano Mon Oct 15, 2007 04:29pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
The NFL is still playing tonight right? :rolleyes:



The NFL would not be playing on Wednesday. The NFL does not play on Wednesday. Is there a point here?



The day off is for travel, not weather. There is a built in travel day for every game between sites. The only time they would not use the travel day is during the 5 game series and if a game is rained out. The game was not rained out and they played. Life will go on.

Peace

Yeah, the point is and was that MLB had built in two off days in Denver, neither of which conflicted with the NFL.

Last night's game could have been easily rescheduled to Tuesday and been played in better weather and no NFL Conflict.


Consider that the best TBS post season baseball rating so far is a 5.5 which is less than half the rating of a regular season game on Sunday night on NBC.

And tonight the Red Sox and Indians and the D-Backs and Rockies will overlap the Giants/Atlanta NFL game.
The number of TV households in Boston., Cleveland, Phoenix and Denver total 7.2 million, less than the total of those in the New York City area.

So my point remains, why play a game in the rain against the NFL when there was away to avoid both?

JRutledge Mon Oct 15, 2007 08:12pm

Even if football is not on, the average public does not care. Maybe you are one of those guys that still think most people are that crazy about MLB and the playoffs. The reality is anytime they have to go head up with another sport, they lose. And you are not going to get many fans than a Sunday night no matter what is on.

Personally I do not care why they did or did not play the game. It was just another game that I did not watch. And I am sure most of the country. ;)

Peace

jimpiano Mon Oct 15, 2007 08:23pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
Even if football is not on, the average public does not care. Maybe you are one of those guys that still think most people are that crazy about MLB and the playoffs. The reality is anytime they have to go head up with another sport, they lose. And you are not going to get many fans than a Sunday night no matter what is on.

Personally I do not care why they did or did not play the game. It was just another game that I did not watch. And I am sure most of the country. ;)

Peace

Wow, I guess you sure told me.

Cub42 Mon Oct 15, 2007 09:05pm

Still pushing the issue
 
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Wow, I guess you sure told me.

It is astonishing to me that you continue to pursue this. You have had it explained to you, and I might add without name calling or questioning your ability to comprehend what we have been telling you. Take your medication, and go back to watching Jerry Springer now

JRutledge Mon Oct 15, 2007 09:08pm

From the NF Website.
 
NF Website passage

Baseball is the fourth-most popular sport among boys at the high school level with 470,671 participants during the 2005-06 season, according to the High School Athletics Participation Survey conducted by the NFHS. It also ranks third in school sponsorship across the nation with 15,290 schools.

I am sure it does not help that games are starting at 10:00 Eastern.

Peace

jimpiano Mon Oct 15, 2007 09:53pm

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Originally Posted by Cub42
It is astonishing to me that you continue to pursue this. You have had it explained to you, and I might add without name calling or questioning your ability to comprehend what we have been telling you. Take your medication, and go back to watching Jerry Springer now

Well what exactly are you explaining?

You are defending playing a game in the rain as a showcase of post season in MLB?

JRutledge Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:35pm

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Originally Posted by jimpiano
Well what exactly are you explaining?

You are defending playing a game in the rain as a showcase of post season in MLB?

Actually who cares if they played the game? They played the game and they are playing the next game tonight. Reasonable people would get over it.

Peace

GarthB Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:29pm

Wow. Talk about juvenile self-importance.

The game was played. MLB was okay with it. The fans were okay with it. The television audience was okay with it. The players were okay with it. The umpires were okay with it.

One poster with an inflated sense of self was annoyed, so obviously the world is wrong and he is right.

Good grief.

PeteBooth Tue Oct 16, 2007 09:11am

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MLB ought to be embarrassed for starting tonight's game in Denver.


No Problem with the rain.

It was nothing like the conditions played years ago between the Montreal Expos and the LA Dodgers.

The problem MLB will face one of these years is Snow. The World Series is scheduled to end I believe on Nov 1st or Oct 31st. (Assuming the full 7 games)

This year the weather in the East has been great, but this is the exception rather than the norm. As we get to middle to late October the weather turns and when you play in NY, Boston Cleveland etc in late October anything can happen.

Look at what happend to the Cleveland home games in early April. Many were cancelled due to snow.

No reason for baseball to last this long.

Pete Booth


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