Given what Winters actually said, I don't believe that a reasonable person would conclude that "it smacked of that tone." More plausibly, Meacham saw an opportunity to mislead the press by giving the impression that Winters had used racist language, when in fact he had not.

Deliberately deceiving others who deserve the truth is a lie in anyone's book. This might not be "beyond a reasonable doubt," but I suppose that each of us is entitled to his own impression of Meacham.

Winters uttered considerably more words than just "FPOS." I don't think any of us know what those words were or the tone.
Also, "smacking of a racial tone" is not "racist language." Tone refers to that which isn't explicitly said.

So you're guessing. I repeat: given what he said, it's unreasonable to assert what Meacham did.

I agree with the latter, but the former doesn't follow. I believe racist language includes language "smacking of a racial tone."

Time for this thread to be locked. It's off-topic and has gone beyond the three page maximum.

As usual. :rolleyes:

<ol>1. I have not heard tell of the demise of the moderator, nor his placing you in charge of the locking of the threads at this time.:rolleyes:

2. The thread is very "on-topic." I just read through the posts and they are all still dealing with the suspension of Mike Winters, which has many facets, many new developments, and has not yet run its course.

3. The three page maximum only applies to your threads;) :) :D :p <ol>

1) How is it off topic? It deals with how an umpire should (or shouldn't) act, how MLB is different from amateur ball and what an appropriate penalty is.

2) What "three page maximum?"

I do agree that it's getting a bit repetitive, though.

My God, we agree!

Besides, I haven't posted and asked the question........:confused:

Except that you ask it at the end of EVERY SINGLE POST! :)

That's cause......I CAN'T FIND THE DANG THINGS!!!

No, there was a newspaper quote that you concluded was an accusation of racism. What Meacham told MLB is not known, except to MLB.

No umpire has ever been suspended from MLB for making a profane statement? If so, then Winters must have broken new ground in what he said and in the manner he delivered it.

Since their were 4 parties to the incident and the only one punished was the umpire what is a reasonable person to conclude?

Try this: http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

I don't know if you are unable to read or just being purposefully dense.

1. The racial accusation was made by Meacham, not MLB.

2. MLB made no accusations, they considered those made by others.

3. MLB punished Winters for making a profane statement, not for making a racial statement.

4. Most likely, all of the punishments are either not being made public or have not been completed at this point.

5. Winters was wrong by today's standards and was punished. I have never argued otherwise.

6. Meacham is a lying rat bast@rd who, most likely will get away with being a lying rat bast@rd.

7. Bradley is, well...no sense discussing that phucking piece of sh!t again.

8. Time for you to go back on the ignore list.

9. I'm done with this thread.

Top Nine List?
 

Nine?????? You stopped at nine???? You couldn't have came up with just ONE MORE?????:)