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VanStanza Sun Sep 30, 2007 07:23am

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
I never said anyone is piling on, and like fitump56 said it is a bad idea to be yelling across the field. The only problem is that to avoid this, I've got to follow the coach for 50 metres to get to him, and this just doesn't look good. Maybe I should just toss him after he starts yelling across the diamond? What do you guys think? This whole yelling across the diamond thing is starting to piss me off, maybe it's time to just eject immediatly.

I find that too often on this forum, umpires are looking for comebacks to a player's or coach's comments. Many times, a reasonable course of action to ignore the coach if he is yelling from across the diamond.

If he is walking that fine line and want him to say more to get tossed so that it doesn't look like you're chasing him from the game, and you want to acknowledge that you heard him, a simple glare in his direction is also effective.

Arnold A. Sun Sep 30, 2007 09:54am

Hmmmmm..................
 
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Originally Posted by VanStanza
I find that too often on this forum, umpires are looking for comebacks to a player's or coach's comments. Many times, a reasonable course of action to ignore the coach if he is yelling from across the diamond.

If he is walking that fine line and want him to say more to get tossed so that it doesn't look like you're chasing him from the game, and you want to acknowledge that you heard him, a simple glare in his direction is also effective.

I do not want anyone screaming at me across the diamond.

If he cannot comport himself in an adult manner and come to me and discuss the issue(s), then there is a good chance he will be ejected.

I don't yell at coaches or players across the diamond, and I don't tolerate them yelling at me in that manner.

I also don't engage in "comebacks" with coaches or players. I try to keep any contact with participants to a bare minimum. I've found that, more often than not, the game goes along more smoothly for all involved this way.

RPatrino Sun Sep 30, 2007 04:01pm

Canada, I will be kind, since you purport to still wanting to learn.

1) You don't ever "follow a coach" to get to him. Make him come to you. A coach wants to talk to you, make eye contact and don't move. If he still doesn't get it, motion him towards you.
2) If a coach begins to yell at you accross the diamond. Call "time", if it's not already called, beckon the coach to join you. "Coach, come here". Now, when he is within normal conversational distance tell him. "coach, i don't appreciate being yelled at accross the diamond. If you want to talk to me, this is how we do it". The ball is in his court now. The next time he yells at you from afar, eject him from afar.

MrUmpire Sun Sep 30, 2007 07:59pm

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
You know Garth, I'm not perfect and I never said that I was. Of course I make mistakes. At least I'm not that you and your son are. Word is neither of you are as good as you claim to be.

I'm one of what is probably a very few who post here who has seen them both work. If you were up to their level, you wouldn't be complaining about what your assignor thinks of you.

fitump56 Mon Oct 01, 2007 02:19am

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Originally Posted by RPatrino
Canada, I will be kind, since you purport to still wanting to learn.

1) You don't ever "follow a coach" to get to him. Make him come to you. A coach wants to talk to you, make eye contact and don't move. If he still doesn't get it, motion him towards you.

Establishing the position of ultimate authority, agreed.

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2) If a coach begins to yell at you accross the diamond. Call "time", if it's not already called, beckon the coach to join you. "Coach, come here". Now, when he is within normal conversational distance tell him. "coach, i don't appreciate being yelled at accross the diamond. If you want to talk to me, this is how we do it". The ball is in his court now. The next time he yells at you from afar, eject him from afar.
Approach slowly, and keep at least two arms distances away.

fitump56 Mon Oct 01, 2007 02:23am

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Originally Posted by VanStanza
I find that too often on this forum, umpires are looking for comebacks to a player's or coach's comments. Many times, a reasonable course of action to ignore the coach if he is yelling from across the diamond.

:eek:
No comebacks? The Old Guard on here has a book full of them and, by gollee, they bring them out like gunslingers shooting down coache s. About as accurately as Cheney hunts people, er, quail. Works every time for them. Jst ask them.

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If he is walking that fine line and want him to say more to get tossed so that it doesn't look like you're chasing him from the game, and you want to acknowledge that you heard him, a simple glare in his direction is also effective.
:eek:
Say nothing.

Get out of here with that effective, useful advice.

Harrumph. :p


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