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SanDiegoSteve Thu Sep 20, 2007 08:07pm
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Originally Posted by BigUmp56
Text book verbal obstruction in a FED game. Somewhere in my old e-mails I have an interpretation from Kyle McNeely, a former NFHS rules committee member that explains how and why this should be called in a FED game.


Tim.
We already know the reason why it should be called in a FED game...because the FED likes to coddle the kids and not let them just play ball.

newump Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:19pm
thanks guys.
in sum. enforce it in fed and ignore it in ncaa and obr??
thanks.

ManInBlue Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:37pm
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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
Ozzy,

Where in this rule 5-3 that you have cited does it address a defensive player hollering something at a base runner? The rule clearly is addressing violations by offensive team members hindering a defensive player. I can see nothing that you cited that refers to a defensive player. Can you clear this up for me? I admit that I'm not any kind of NCAA rules expert, but I tend to agree with Bob J. on this one.
What he quoted is basically a definition of INT. That's an offensive violation. OBS is defensive. The fact that it's mentioned to include verbal in INT, I would personally interpret that to include OBS on the defense. Based strictly on what has been posted.

Correct me if that's wrong. I will look into the NCAA rule book this weekend to see if it spells anything out.

bob jenkins Fri Sep 21, 2007 07:42am
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Originally Posted by newump
thanks guys.
in sum. enforce it in fed and ignore it in ncaa and obr??
thanks.
I'd change it to "stop it in FED and ignore it in ncaa". You don't want to have to enforce this.

Of course, F5 will just claim that he's telling F6 to play deeper. ;)

David B Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:34am
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
Ignore it in NCAA and higher.

Probably not allowed by rule in FED, but the enforcement will vary based on the norms in your area.
Exactly what Bob says is how I've handled this for years. Never any complaints and takes care of the situation.

Thanks
David

BigUmp56 Fri Sep 21, 2007 06:34pm
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
I'd change it to "stop it in FED and ignore it in ncaa". You don't want to have to enforce this.

Of course, F5 will just claim that he's telling F6 to play deeper. ;)
I agree with you to try to put a stop to it before it becomes an issue, Bob. But , in my opinion, if it effects the outcome of a play, we should enforce it.


Tim.


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