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Old Mon Sep 10, 2007, 11:30am
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Not as quick as a keyword searh and doesn't give you all the possibilities
YGBSM! By the time your done typing in your "keyword" I've found what I'm looking for. Goes along with knowing the rulebook. Lame.



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Look up "hardened", electronic devices that are made for warfafre.
Fitty, it's really deep where you just jumped. (That would be off the deep end) That's just completely ridiculous. Not that they make them, that you suggest they use them for a baseball game. Really lame.


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And they are the size of the Bible. My butt's not that big, YBMV, call me when a rule boook is backlighted.
Last I looked fields are lighted as bright as day. If you need larger text buy a pair of glasses. LameO.

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PDA is real time, on time, at time chat. And it is recordable.
So is the guy in the booth and on the phone. Another lame reason.



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Fo r the third time, see above regarding commitment. You think officials in toher sports say "I don't want to be bothered with IR" when the commitment is made and their employers demand it?
How about committing to learning the rules. If your memory fails, go to the rulebook. (The paper version as technology isn't necessary here). Instant replay is a completely different subject. It's really lame when you try to change the subject to something else to prove your point.



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It's a New World, join it.
Really? Wow! Guess what? You still don't have fans using PDAs, QLDs or any other technological device to look up rules during a game. Another ridiculously lame attempt to prove your point. Get real.



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Technologies prevent protests and anything, technological or not, that improves the accuracy of officiating the game should be utilized.
Yep and the technology exists to completely replace all officials in every sport. There's a little something called the human element of the game. That goes for the players, coaches and officials.

Underutilized Technologies Or Overblown Egos?

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Egos. O r maybe you would prefer to just get the call wrong and be done with it.
Nice try but no cigar. Thanks for playing, the consolation prize is the game of "Clue" by Parker Brothers. Now you can say you have one.

Bottom line is some type of device to lookup rules is not necessary. Sure it would be neat'o but necessary, nope. Wouldn't do anything for improving the accuracy of the officiating that just having the rulebook there wouldn't do.
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Old Mon Sep 10, 2007, 11:44am
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Hey all,

Technology does not always make things "better". Take, for instance, calculators. They do make doing math equations easier and faster, BUT, what has happened to kids knowledge of how to do math WITHOUT the use of a calculator?

A pda, like a rule book, in the pocket or ball bag or off to the side, could be used as an aid for ironing out "difficult" circumstances. It is not needed with PROPER rules knowledge.

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Old Mon Sep 10, 2007, 11:59am
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Hey all,

Another way to look at it is this...

A rule book, pda, or any other reference source, that would be on site, is a crutch. A crutch is used when something is broken or not complete. If the rule knowledge of the official in any sport is complete, then the crutch is not needed. The manager's and coach's understanding of the rules are, in a lot of instances, misapplied. If they think that the umpire is misinterpreting a rule, then, as said before, that is what a protest is for.

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Hey all,

Another way to look at it is this...

A rule book, pda, or any other reference source, that would be on site, is a crutch. A crutch is used when something is broken or not complete.
Obviously, the MLB guys who blew the BOO call need a crutch. Or assistance in getting the call right. Let's call this asssitance, get rid of the limping around, half capable image of "crutch".

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If the rule knowledge of the official in any sport is complete,
Which it never is....

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then the crutch is not needed. The manager's and coach's understanding of the rules are, in a lot of instances, misapplied. If they think that the umpire is misinterpreting a rule, then, as said before, that is what a protest is for.

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Choose, a protest or a rule properly applied using assistance?
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Old Tue Sep 11, 2007, 02:26am
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YGBSM! By the time your done typing in your "keyword" I've found what I'm looking for. Goes along with knowing the rulebook. Lame.
I make my living in the compter technology business. You?

You're dreaming if you think this is the case regading lookups. Applied technologies in the baseball world, they are already heavily invested. They, I and we know what you don't. No sense in arguing, NF, you haven't the educational, operational and technological basis from which to do so.

The only reason that MLB does not use any known, tried and true technology is that they choose not to. I question why t is that they choose not to when the obvious result is a better officiated game.

This is self-evident; MLB isn't concerned with best efforts accuracy in officiating. Same with IR. And a dozen other technologies that would absolutely enhance accuracy.

So, back to:

Underutilized Technologies Or Overblown Egos?

If MLB umps were "for the sport" and its best interests, then this entire thread would be without value. They would be the first ones to promote accuracy. But they don't.
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Old Tue Sep 11, 2007, 07:49am
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then this entire thread would be without value.
Finally something on which we can agree.

Edited to clarify: I mean that the thread has run it's course. Some like "all" technology; some like "no" technology. We won't resolve it further here.
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