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Old Fri Aug 24, 2007, 07:24am
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I hasten to state that the OP from CanadaUmp6 has been made without reference to any rules or practice in Ontario. The issue of lightning has been of concern for a number of years and after a number of conversations with lawyers/insurers etc the OBA have adopted the 30/30 rule. This has been posted on the website and has been part of the communication with local organizations.
1. Lightning: Please remember, the baseball season is a prime time for thunder storms, so be aware of lightning and remember the 30-30 Rule.
o • 30-30 Rule:
Determine the threat of lightning in your area.
o • 30 Seconds:
Count the seconds between seeing lightning and hearing thunder. If this time is less than 30 seconds, lightning is still a potential threat. Seek shelter immediately.
o • 30 minutes:
After the last lightning flash, wait 30 minutes before leaving shelter. Half of all lightning deaths occur after the storm passes. Stay in a safe area until you are sure the threat has passed.
If an umpire in Ontario wishes to avoid liability they must follow this rule. So far as the OP’s statement that “The base umpire has nothing to say about weather or darkness. But I decided to follow his directions as he is crew chief”. I’m not sure what rule book this comes from, but certainly not from anywhere that I’m aware of anywhere in Canada or the USA (following the good neighbour policy).

Just my two cents worth….
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Old Fri Aug 24, 2007, 08:13am
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I'm not sure where canadaump gets his information but where I am in Canada we use the 30 minute rule.

As soon as you see lightning you halt the game for 30 minutes at which point you reassess the situation and if it is still dangerous the game is suspended or called.
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Old Fri Aug 24, 2007, 03:46pm
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I hasten to state that the OP from CanadaUmp6 has been made without reference to any rules or practice in Ontario. The issue of lightning has been of concern for a number of years and after a number of conversations with lawyers/insurers etc the OBA have adopted the 30/30 rule. This has been posted on the website and has been part of the communication with local organizations.
1. Lightning: Please remember, the baseball season is a prime time for thunder storms, so be aware of lightning and remember the 30-30 Rule.
o • 30-30 Rule:
Determine the threat of lightning in your area.
o • 30 Seconds:
Count the seconds between seeing lightning and hearing thunder. If this time is less than 30 seconds, lightning is still a potential threat. Seek shelter immediately.
o • 30 minutes:
After the last lightning flash, wait 30 minutes before leaving shelter. Half of all lightning deaths occur after the storm passes. Stay in a safe area until you are sure the threat has passed.
If an umpire in Ontario wishes to avoid liability they must follow this rule. So far as the OP’s statement that “The base umpire has nothing to say about weather or darkness. But I decided to follow his directions as he is crew chief”. I’m not sure what rule book this comes from, but certainly not from anywhere that I’m aware of anywhere in Canada or the USA (following the good neighbour policy).

Just my two cents worth….
I looked all over the Baseball Ontario website and found nothing about a 30 minute rule.
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Old Fri Aug 24, 2007, 04:01pm
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I looked all over the Baseball Ontario website and found nothing about a 30 minute rule.
Hmm, took me about 30 seconds to find it

http://www.baseballontario.com/Const...stitution.html
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Old Fri Aug 24, 2007, 04:41pm
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I looked all over the Baseball Ontario website and found nothing about a 30 minute rule.
Why does that not surprise me?

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Hmm, took me about 30 seconds to find it
Why does that not surprise me?
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Why does that not surpirse me?

Why does that not surpise me?
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