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Old Thu Aug 16, 2007, 06:46am
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I didn't say it was fair. But it is high time pitchers who intentionally throw at the head (didn't happen in this case, but it does happen) face charges as well.
To start with, most times you see a ball heading for a batter's head is an accident. Balls slip, mechanics go crazy - in other words $hit happens, and the ball goes to the wrong place. You will rarely ever see a fast ball heading for a batter's head unless the pitcher is really wild (or wants to leave the game). Pitchers will throw to the body but usually off speed.

"A professional pitcher can put the ball where ever he wants. So if I am going to throw at your head, I'm going to make sure that it's my best pitch because it's such a small target! And my best pitch is straight as an arrow at over 98 MPH!" Nolan Ryan

Something to think about.
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Old Thu Aug 16, 2007, 07:19am
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I think he has lost his mind according to his game
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Old Thu Aug 16, 2007, 09:48am
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"A professional pitcher can put the ball where ever he wants..." Nolan Ryan

Something to think about.
Hyperbole. Even Ryan walked 2795 batters.
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Old Thu Aug 16, 2007, 02:31pm
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Old Fri Aug 17, 2007, 09:09pm
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Hyperbole. Even Ryan walked 2795 batters.
So Ryan wanted to place the ball in a position where the batter might swing, or a walk would occur, and he didn't care which.
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Old Sat Aug 18, 2007, 10:26am
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So Ryan wanted to place the ball in a position where the batter might swing, or a walk would occur, and he didn't care which.
Yep, every single time.
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Old Sun Aug 19, 2007, 08:42pm
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Wouldn't intent on the pitcher's part be a judgement call? If I think a pitcher threw at somebody on purpose, he's gone. I think the events preceding the event have a lot to do with how I would handle the situation. With that said, a batter that carries a bat to the mound has pretty much taken all doubt out of my mind as to what he is about to do. If he hits a guy in the parking lot with a bat, he is probably going to be arrested. This guy needs to be ran from the game for life. When a batter steps in the box, he takes a chance on getting hit with a pitch. A pitcher shouldn't have to wonder if he is going to be attacked with a baseball bat.
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Old Sun Aug 19, 2007, 11:05pm
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This guy needs to be ran from the game for life.
I have lost track. How many games were missed by the guy in Durham who threw a bat at the umpire? Was it like 80? Don't think he will be removed for life. It's happened in the BIGS before also and as far as I can remember no one has been removed for life for this.
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Old Mon Aug 27, 2007, 12:48pm
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I have lost track. How many games were missed by the guy in Durham who threw a bat at the umpire? Was it like 80? Don't think he will be removed for life. It's happened in the BIGS before also and as far as I can remember no one has been removed for life for this.
The guy in Durham was Delmon Young (Dimitri's brother), who is now in the major leagues. Certainly not banned for life, I'd have to say.
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Old Mon Aug 20, 2007, 12:12am
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Nathans, who said he had been hit by Offerman's bat in the back of the head, was taken to the hospital after he began throwing up and complained of nausea. He was treated and released.
Why did Nathans immediately return to his position after possibly sustaining a concussion; amnesia? I would think that if Nathans was hit on the back of the head, the symptoms would have been a bump on the head and a call for an ice pack. He was treated and released the very same night after throwing up and complaining of nausea. X-rays must have not turned up any swelling or he would have been hospitalized for observation.

Anyone else see the blow to the back of his head? Perhaps, in the excitement, Nathans swallowed his dip of snuff or his chew of tobacco. Perhaps the over-exertion during the melee brought about heat related symptons of nausea and vomiting. Is there a Dr. in the house to explain Nathan's nervous reaction after being hit on the head?

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Old Mon Aug 20, 2007, 04:55pm
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Is there a Dr. in the house to explain Nathan's nervous reaction after being hit on the head?
Would you take a DR. in an educational sense rather than a medical licensing one? Nausea is common to concussions.
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Would you take a DR. in an educational sense rather than a medical licensing one? Nausea is common to concussions.
http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9025107/concussion
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Old Mon Aug 27, 2007, 02:48am
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Why did Nathans immediately return to his position after possibly sustaining a concussion; amnesia? I would think that if Nathans was hit on the back of the head, the symptoms would have been a bump on the head and a call for an ice pack. He was treated and released the very same night after throwing up and complaining of nausea. X-rays must have not turned up any swelling or he would have been hospitalized for observation.

Anyone else see the blow to the back of his head? Perhaps, in the excitement, Nathans swallowed his dip of snuff or his chew of tobacco. Perhaps the over-exersion during the melee brought about heat related symptons of nausia and vomiting. Is there a Dr. in the house to explain Nathan's nervous reaction after being hit on the head?
Shame on you for suggesting this. And it's "exertion" and "nausea."

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