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Old Tue Aug 14, 2007, 04:13pm
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Your Answer: Many, many people will defend those results.
About as many, if not more than those people, will hold an opposite POV.
While many others, clearly distance themselves from either POV.
You miss my point.

You cannot argue the validity of both results based on the method. The methods used are essentially the same. Yet they provide (apparently) 2 different results.
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Old Tue Aug 14, 2007, 04:22pm
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You miss my point.

You cannot argue the validity of both results based on the method. The methods used are essentially the same. Yet they provide (apparently) 2 different results.
Are you saying there's method to this madness?
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Old Tue Aug 14, 2007, 05:04pm
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Are you saying there's method to this madness?
Just because there's a method to it doesn't mean that it's not madness.

Which seems to be the consensus so far.......

Which brings up the point......if someone calls you a racist, is it possible to prove that you aren't?
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Old Tue Aug 14, 2007, 05:21pm
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Which brings up the point......if someone calls you a racist, is it possible to prove that you aren't?

Sure, but not by arguing; by the example you set in what you do and what you say.

Same thing as when a coach says: "You're horrible." You don't prove him wrong by arguing that you're not. You prove it with your performance.
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Old Tue Aug 14, 2007, 05:30pm
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Sure, but not by arguing; by the example you set in what you do and what you say.

Same thing as when a coach says: "You're horrible." You don't prove him wrong by arguing that you're not. You prove it with your performance.
The problem is that your performance is still being subjectively evaluated by the person judging you. Case in point.....Gary Sheffield and Joe Torre.

How can you prove anything through performance if the person evaluating that performance still insists that it's racist?
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Old Tue Aug 14, 2007, 05:55pm
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The problem is that your performance is still being subjectively evaluated by the person judging you. Case in point.....Gary Sheffield and Joe Torre.

How can you prove anything through performance if the person evaluating that performance still insists that it's racist?
You're thinking short term, I'm advocating long term.
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Old Thu Aug 16, 2007, 09:46am
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If I had the Cash...

...I would sue this clown and fry his methodology until it was extra crispy.

I cannot wait for the econ grad student's analysis of what his methodology. I'd also love to read the guy's paper. He is a classic example of what is wrong with higher education in America today. You find some complicated statistical model, speak in a specialist language that a regular person doesn't have access to, then massage the data to say what you want it to say. It gets done with crime stats, so-called global warming, so why not with baseball?
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Old Tue Aug 14, 2007, 05:50pm
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if someone calls you a racist, is it possible to prove that you aren't?
I thought you answered, "Hey, some of my best friends are (fill in blank)."
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