Bud Selig

Mountaineer · #1 (**permalink**) Sat Aug 04, 2007, 10:20pm

I know that Bud is pi$$ed because he had to attend the games where Barry Bonds ties and passes Hank Aaron - but his actions tonight were uncalled for and very unprofessional. Barry hit the HR and he has now tied the record. No applause? Turned down the request by ESPN to make a statement in the booth? Hey Bud, you're the freaking commissioner! Grow some stones and act like you are in charge. He could have made some sort of statement about it being a great night for Barry Bonds, his family and the Giant organization. Yes, I'm sure Barry shot up . . . but he has the record - whether or not you agree with his method, he has the record. Selig was out of line in my humble opinion.

SanDiegoSteve · #2 (**permalink**) Sat Aug 04, 2007, 11:01pm

He didn't have to attend the games, he has chosen to. Selig was under no obligation to show up. His showing up is more than I thought would happen. You don't see Hank anywhere.

tcblue13 · #3 (**permalink**) Sat Aug 04, 2007, 11:07pm

The last Great Commissioner was A. Bartlett Giamatti. Fay Vincent held his own especially on the Pete Rose issue. MLB needs someone who can be the face of the game and who can uphold the dignity of the game. Selig has just been asleep at the wheel for tooooo long.

GarthB · #4 (**permalink**) Sat Aug 04, 2007, 11:12pm

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." -
-- Martin Luther King Jr.

Barry Bonds has fulfilled King's dream. He is being judged by the content of his character, that lying, cheating douchebag.

mattmets · #5 (**permalink**) Sat Aug 04, 2007, 11:16pm

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Originally Posted by tcblue13

The last Great Commissioner was A. Bartlett Giamatti. Fay Vincent held his own especially on the Pete Rose issue. MLB needs someone who can be the face of the game and who can uphold the dignity of the game. Selig has just been asleep at the wheel for tooooo long.

Selig's not asleep, he's just still in the pockets of his fellow owners....

tcblue13 · #6 (**permalink**) Sat Aug 04, 2007, 11:22pm

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Originally Posted by mattmets

Selig's not asleep, he's just still in the pockets of his fellow owners....

That's true but the Commissioner works for the owners anyway. He has always been their hired gun, so to speak. If a commissioner raised too much guff against the owners' league policies, he wouldn't be commissioner for too long. I just think that Bud doesn't do anything for the game of baseball.

SAump · #7 (**permalink**) Sat Aug 04, 2007, 11:51pm

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Originally Posted by tcblue13

I just think that Bud doesn't do anything for the game of baseball.

Salary caps?
Six Division titles?
Important All-Star game?
Wildcard {aka 2nd place} team?
World Series home field advantage decided by July?
or
Allowing the Red Sox to pay $51 million to talk to someone?

ozzy6900 · #8 (**permalink**) Sat Aug 04, 2007, 11:58pm

Absolve the Chicago 8, forgive Pete Rose and then I'll give a rat's behind about a steroid enhanced record breaker! At least those people did it on their own!

fitump56 · #9 (**permalink**) Sun Aug 05, 2007, 12:43am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

He didn't have to attend the games, he has chosen to. Selig was under no obligation to show up. His showing up is more than I thought would happen. You don't see Hank anywhere.

Selig had to show up, grow up Supie! then he did what was right. He ignored that cheating a$$hole Bonds and Aaron, who had a choice, did the right thing. Flipped him off too.

JRutledge · #10 (**permalink**) Sun Aug 05, 2007, 01:14am

The bottom line is when you prove something about Barry. I will buy all that crap. Until then, it is a record. Barry Bonds has broken it. And the last time I checked steroids were not an illegal substance. I guess we should put an asterisk on all the other records when Blacks were not allowed to play until Jackie Robinson was given an opportunity. Or what about all these new parks where the fences were moved in to help batters hit homers. Or what about expansion which diluted pitching across the Majors over the last 10 years.

Come talk to me when you account for all these things.

Peace

SanDiegoSteve · #11 (**permalink**) Sun Aug 05, 2007, 01:48am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

The bottom line is when you prove something about Barry. I will buy all that crap. Until then, it is a record. Barry Bonds has broken it. And the last time I checked steroids were not an illegal substance. I guess we should put an asterisk on all the other records when Blacks were not allowed to play until Jackie Robinson was given an opportunity. Or what about all these new parks where the fences were moved in to help batters hit homers. Or what about expansion which diluted pitching across the Majors over the last 10 years.

Come talk to me when you account for all these things.

Peace

Not to mention all the pitchers who take steroids.

The bottom line is this: Many people take steroids and can't hit a baseball traveling upwards of 90 mph. It takes a talent that steroids cannot produce.

JRutledge · #12 (**permalink**) Sun Aug 05, 2007, 02:00am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Not to mention all the pitchers who take steroids.

The bottom line is this: Many people take steroids and can't hit a baseball traveling upwards of 90 mph. It takes a talent that steroids cannot produce.

Apparently the pitcher that Bonds hit the home run off of was tested positive for steroids previously. There have actually been more pitchers tested positive than batters.

I also saw that Carlton Fisk hit the exact same number of home runs as Bonds (72) since they reached the age of 40. I guess Fisk was a steroid user too. And Aaron was just a year younger when he hit 755. Sounds to me like a lot of people have some explaining to do.

Peace

GarthB · #13 (**permalink**) Sun Aug 05, 2007, 02:13am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

Sounds to me like a lot of people have some explaining to do.

Peace

Yeah, like the trainer who supplied Bonds, but he decided to go to jail instead of talk to the grand jury. There'll be a payday for him down the road.

And Bonds, who admitted taking them, but said he didn't know they were performance enhancing.

BTW, steriods are banned substances in baseball.

Hat's off to Hank Aaron. The man has class and the balls to do the right thing.

Jurassic Referee · #14 (**permalink**) Sun Aug 05, 2007, 02:37am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

And the last time I checked steroids were not an illegal substance.

I take it the you haven't checked since 1990.

Anabolic steroids used for non-medical purposes have been illegal under federal law since then under the Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 1990.

http://mesomorphosis.com/articles/co...nd-the-law.htm

http://mesomorphosis.com/articles/co...escription.htm

SanDiegoSteve · #15 (**permalink**) Sun Aug 05, 2007, 02:40am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

Apparently the pitcher that Bonds hit the home run off of was tested positive for steroids previously.

Clay Hensley? I'm going to have to doubt the validity of this. This would be the first I've EVER heard mention of this, and I follow the Padres rather closely. Are you sure about this?