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ManInBlue Tue Jul 31, 2007 07:07pm

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Originally Posted by GarthB
No, it's not. I think you have the "set-up" confused.

You or your memory are mistaken.

You have probably hit the proverbial nail on the head. My set-up could very well be off, and my memory could very well be incorrect. Actually, it's most likely a combination of both.

SanDiegoSteve Tue Jul 31, 2007 08:16pm

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Originally Posted by ManInBlue
No, not specifically. Although some do use it. I got it from Paul Nauert (sp?), Jerry Crawford, and Brian Reiley (sp?). I've also read it, I believe, but don't recall off the top of my head where.

When was the last time any of these guys worked two-man mechanics?:confused:

GarthB Tue Jul 31, 2007 09:36pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
When was the last time any of these guys worked two-man mechanics?:confused:

There's a good chance I'll have contact with at least one of those umpires in the next month or so. I'll certainly inquire into why they taught this mechanic.

bossman72 Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:05am

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Originally Posted by GarthB
There's a good chance I'll have contact with at least one of those umpires in the next month or so. I'll certainly inquire into why they taught this mechanic.


Good thing you mentioned that the PU only gets R2 at third "if he tags" only if there is an R1... I've been covering when there is an R2 only. Time to fix that!!

Once again, Garth makes me a better umpire, little by little. haha

SanDiegoSteve Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:46am

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Originally Posted by bossman72
Good thing you mentioned that the PU only gets R2 at third "if he tags" only if there is an R1... I've been covering when there is an R2 only. Time to fix that!!

Once again, Garth makes me a better umpire, little by little. haha

What, am I on your Ignore List? It seems I said the same thing just before Garth did.:confused:

Throw me a frickin' bone, people.:)

Publius Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:53am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
When was the last time any of these guys worked two-man mechanics?:confused:

Brian Reilly worked some 2-man at least as recently as 2006. I'd bet the farm, though, that any reference he may have made to what maninblue described was a response to some third-world situation.

Don Mueller Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:55am

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Originally Posted by bossman72
Good thing you mentioned that the PU only gets R2 at third "if he tags" only if there is an R1... I've been covering when there is an R2 only. Time to fix that!!

Once again, Garth makes me a better umpire, little by little. haha

Yes Garth is a great resource! (edited) As is SDS
But what flaws do you have on other basic mechanics?
It may be a long time before the Garth compilation of posts includes all 2 man mechanics. It may be time to read a book.

SanDiegoSteve Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:41pm

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Originally Posted by Publius
Brian Reilly worked some 2-man at least as recently as 2006. I'd bet the farm, though, that any reference he may have made to what maninblue described was a response to some third-world situation.

I'll admit I don't know Brian Reilly from Charles Nelson Reilly.

GarthB Wed Aug 01, 2007 01:31pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
I'll admit I don't know Brian Reilly from Charles Nelson Reilly.

Brian isn't dead.

SanDiegoSteve Wed Aug 01, 2007 02:42pm

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Originally Posted by GarthB
Brian isn't dead.

Oh, that's the difference.:rolleyes:

ManInBlue Wed Aug 01, 2007 04:13pm

Steve - Brian is Mike Reilly's nephew. He's in his 2nd (or 3rd) year at AAA and is an instructor at Harry's.

Garth - Please ask them about it and get back to me with the response. I'd be very curious to see how much of it I've got screwed up.

I'm pretty confident about PU covering 3B. I am now questioning my comments about BU going home.

ManInBlue Wed Aug 01, 2007 04:16pm

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Originally Posted by Publius
Brian Reilly worked some 2-man at least as recently as 2006. I'd bet the farm, though, that any reference he may have made to what maninblue described was a response to some third-world situation.

Sorry for the double post - I could remember who had posted this...

Anyway - Paul did fungos on the field with us and stressed PU getting to 3B when he could.

SanDiegoSteve Wed Aug 01, 2007 04:43pm

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Originally Posted by ManInBlue
Sorry for the double post - I could remember who had posted this...

Anyway - Paul did fungos on the field with us and stressed PU getting to 3B when he could.

I would be surprised if he didn't mean to get to 3rd when you are supposed to get there. Like "get there when you can on plays you are supposed to cover third," or words to that effect.

bobbybanaduck Wed Aug 01, 2007 08:30pm

tried to send a non-flaming PM rather than post for the world to see, but it would not allow it.

the post you have up there about 2 man mechanics is just about entirely incorrect, some of which you've accepted, and some of which you refuse to. whether you misunderstood brian, or brian messed up in his teaching is moot. though i've never been to harry's, they teach the same thing that jimmy's does, and i've been to jimmy's for a bunch of years in a row now (no, not for my varsity letterman jacket.) both schools teach out of the red book, and the red book says PU covers on a tag up only with R1 and R2, and not with R2 only.

GarthB Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:27pm

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Originally Posted by bobbybanaduck
tried to send a non-flaming PM rather than post for the world to see, but it would not allow it.

the post you have up there about 2 man mechanics is just about entirely incorrect, some of which you've accepted, and some of which you refuse to. whether you misunderstood brian, or brian messed up in his teaching is moot. though i've never been to harry's, they teach the same thing that jimmy's does, and i've been to jimmy's for a bunch of years in a row now (no, not for my varsity letterman jacket.) both schools teach out of the red book, and the red book says PU covers on a tag up only with R1 and R2, and not with R2 only.

Welcome back "Bobby". How are you feeling these days?


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