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A poster here claims regarding IR:

"My belief is if you really, honestly believe you are good, then you will welcome review. If not, then hide behind your "integrity" excuse. But how about getting out of the way of umpires who would prefer to reward the game with accuracy and don't have these mountain high, self esteem issues as crutches.

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If that is you're basis for judging yourself, have at it. My own standards have always far exceeded those.

Bitter, not at all. I'm just repulsed by umpires who put their pride in advance of the game. Then howl about how IR "threatens their integrity", that's oxymoronic, they have none. :mad:

In the bad old days of oversized egos and strike zones that included the batter's boxes, and no MLB control, MLB umps refused to even discuss IR. Then a couple of World Series of horrible strike zones on TV and they had Questec shoved down thier throats. (I defer to Jim on the actual history of this).

I agree, it most probably is the Owners who are soooooo concerned about getting fair calls. Do you see MLB umps taking up the slack and asking for IR where IR is very capable of adding to the accuracy of officiating. NOT.

Why? No integrity, too much pride.

In no instance, none? Not even for the Reviewer?

^ 5 ignored posts in a row by "fitump"

there is no reason not to reply all at once. most threads on this site are now unreadable and i, probably along with most posters, close the thread when half of the posts are made by the same ignored user.

I don't believe it is a stretch in anyway to suggest that the baseball page on the forum may be heading the way of McGriff's.

McGriff's died when the idiot posts and the responses to them became so numerous it wasn't worth wading through them to find something of relevance.

Those who engage idiots with their replies contribute to their continuing presence.

EXACTLY the point i try to make.

I can't say about McGriffs, never been there, Looking at it now, what a piece of cr$$ it is. It's not a forum, it's a 3rd grade effort at a mailing list.

Exactly how can you "look at it now?" I get a "the requested URL was not found" error.

Originally Posted by fitump56
I can't say about McGriffs, never been there, Looking at it now,

1) http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

2) Company "bot"

Answered, reply with same courtesy.

http://forum.officiating.com/showpos...2&postcount=18

I don't understand the question, but I stand by my post.

This thread is the biggest WOBW.

http://bolterandchainsword.com/uploa..._548_17134.jpg

StOp WiTh ThE RaNdOm CaPs NoNsEnSe, PlEaSe.

Hey, where'd you get the image of jenkins?

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Review (of umpire's performance by a qualified reviewer or group): Yes.

Instant Review (in a panacea to "get the call right"): Generally no.
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In no instance would you support IR, none? Not even for a Reviewer who could be at the field performing both as your Reviewer and Play Reviewer? (think College Football)