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Old Fri Jul 06, 2007, 11:24am
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I have worked in some organizations/leagues where the coaches rule the roost. It is a very hard place to work as an umpire/UIC.

You have a choice, submit to their will and become a puppet, or live by your principles and leave. Once you give up your integrity as an umpire, you have nothing.
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Old Fri Jul 06, 2007, 11:48am
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I would have done it differently.

As an independent contractor, and working within the framework of FED rules, I would not have restarted any game where an ejected participant was still within sight or sound of the field. The UIC would have to remove me (I wouldn't quit) in the middle of the tourney if he didn't like it. Then I'd get paid for every game he contracted me for, not just the ones I worked.
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Old Fri Jul 06, 2007, 12:05pm
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Obviously, there is alot wrong in this situation. I don't think any of it you can control.

Partner and UIC through you under the bus no doubt. Where was your partner after the eject? How the hell did this manager get to follow you all the way back to A?

Who is the UIC to allow any participant that has been ejected around the field. The game is yours and your partner's, not his.

Its sad you had to wait around to get paid until after the game (least of concerns in this situation), but I too work in tournaments where UIC and TD's don't understand payment should be made before the game.

Obviously UIC just wants to be a coach pleaser for whatever reason.

The one thing I don't think that is out of line is for the UIC after the game to try to give you some advice. Of course, it was awful advice, advice that I would just smile, say "thanks", and drive off. Unfortunatley, the advice came after he completely threw you under.

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Old Fri Jul 06, 2007, 12:30pm
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I would have tossed him too, maybe when he headed to the mound past the second stop sign but definately when he started putting on a show.

Publius is right. Don't restart the game until you can't see the coach.
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Old Fri Jul 06, 2007, 01:48pm
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See coach; no restart.
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Old Fri Jul 06, 2007, 01:54pm
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I don't know if this post will have a lot of takers, particularly when my suggestion will kill any chance of working that league again, but I would not let the tournament director onto my field during a game, which includes letting a coach back into the game. For all intents, that's letting the TD onto the field.

Yes, that will kill your relationship with the league, but it's already been killed, hasn't it?

p.s. - I've done exactly that, although in another sport (hockey)
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Old Fri Jul 06, 2007, 02:04pm
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I don't know if this post will have a lot of takers, particularly when my suggestion will kill any chance of working that league again, but I would not let the tournament director onto my field during a game, which includes letting a coach back into the game. For all intents, that's letting the TD onto the field.

Yes, that will kill your relationship with the league, but it's already been killed, hasn't it?

p.s. - I've done exactly that, although in another sport (hockey)
In agreement.
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