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F1 hits a batter and yells from the mound, "That was a strike!" I wouldn't run him but I'd make it very clear that I was not going to be yelled at by a 16 year old wanna-be. About half way to the mound, I'd say something like, "I'll be back here all game long, you don't wanna be on my bad side!"
Not bad, but I think I would have called time to dust the plate, quietly tell the catcher to go talk to his pitcher and tell him that "If he let's me umpire I will let him stay in the game". 
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[QUOTE=TussAgee11] I took my mask off and approached him, walking swiftly. I asked, perhaps from 10 feet away, as we were converging on each other "Are you going to argue balls and strikes?". QUOTE]
I would have taken my mask off and from right where I was standing I would have said, "That's it - no more on balls and strikes". Then, ANY comment he made after that that even HINTED at balls and strikes, I would have dumped him. That's just the balls-and-strikes part of all this. I may have dumped him a lot sooner. I would NEVER have "approached him, walking swiftly". That makes me the aggressor. In reality, all I do is REACT to what he's saying. I may have more comments after I finish reading the posts, but this balls-and-strikes part needed immediate comment! JJ
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Mon Jun 18, 2007, 09:46am
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If this is the first verbal warning, my mask stays on. When the mask comes off, somebody is leaving.
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Mon Jun 18, 2007, 10:10am
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Or,
You could do a "Bill Miller":
++++++++ "Do you want to get into my business?" (PAUSE) "DO YOU WANT TO GET INTO MY BUSINESS?" (PAUSE) "Do you want to argue balls and strikes?" (PAUSE) "JOHNNY, DO YOU WANT TO ARGUE BALLS AND STRIKES?" "Mumble, mumble" from off camera. KAPOW!!! Damon's gone. Well, you cudda done it that way . . . Regards,
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 I once called a balk on a 16 year old pitcher and he came off the mound and yelled at me about it. As he turned to walk back up the mound, I took off my mask and told him to go to the dugout. The manager came out and started to argue, I told him to go to his car. Everybody stopped and it got very quiet. I stated that we would have a ballgame or we would all go home. Everything settled down and it was a good game.
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Mon Jun 18, 2007, 11:18am
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Regards back!
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Mon Jun 18, 2007, 11:21pm
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"Are you arguing balls and strikes?" is a question I have used on a number of occassions. Some will shut up and some will open their mouth and admit they are, which get's them tossed. Call it baiting if you want, but if the dummy is stupid enough to answer yes he deserves the toss.
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Tue Jun 19, 2007, 12:33am
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Tue Jun 19, 2007, 08:20am
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Unless it's really out of hand, I listen to the chirping the rest of the half inning.
When the head coach of that team walks by on his way back from, or on his way to, the 3rd base box, I simply say "I've listened to all I'm going to about balls and strikes." I don't stop him to confront him. I just say it as he's walking by. No "Is that clear?" No "Do you understand me?" No "one more word and..." Just a simple declarative statement. The next time someone does it, he goes. That's almost always followed by "When I said I'd heard enough, did you think I didn't mean it?"
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Tue Jun 19, 2007, 12:43pm
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I've got it effectively down to 6 "No more ball and strike conversation"
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Tue Jun 19, 2007, 03:03pm
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How about one....ENOUGH!! (With the hand held up like a stop sign).
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Bob P. ----------------------- We are stewards of baseball. Our customers aren't schools or coaches or conferences. Our customer is the game itself.
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Thu Jun 21, 2007, 11:33am
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Funny, Garth, but out of bounds.
Ridiculing fellow umpires--which happens on all boards--is babbling I don't brook. Tuss, I do agree with most of the others on the "are you going to argue?" sitch. Simply put: Don't ask a coach a question like that. I will usually give a terse explanation on a call like your balk. No conference, no time out. A civil rodent might get a more throrough explanation between innings. If I hear someone say he wants to get tossed. I will quietly go over to him and grant him his EJ as quietly as possible, sparing him the "motivation" he wants to give his team. IMHO: Too many ump-coach conversations. Try to be more curt, crisp, concise. Relax, take a deep breath and let the rats make the mistakes. Then react.
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Thu Jun 21, 2007, 12:59pm
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Well, I'll be doggone -- Ace Holleran. There's a name I haven't seen in a dog's age. They still let you umpire in Connecticut? Good to see you.
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