HS Season over, here comes summer ball

[RPatrino]

I'm not a physiologist, but do you think the headache that Rich felt was due to the way the shock of the blow was distributed by the HSM? With the traditional mask, the impact of the blow causes the mask to spin and fly off the face, and there is little force actually felt. The mask may sustain damage but not the wearer.

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by RPatrino

I'm not a physiologist, but do you think the headache that Rich felt was due to the way the shock of the blow was distributed by the HSM? With the traditional mask, the impact of the blow causes the mask to spin and fly off the face, and there is little force actually felt. The mask may sustain damage but not the wearer.

I'm sure a "physicist" or an engineer might be able to offer some insight as to how the impact is distributed...

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by RPatrino

I'm not a physiologist, but do you think the headache that Rich felt was due to the way the shock of the blow was distributed by the HSM? With the traditional mask, the impact of the blow causes the mask to spin and fly off the face, and there is little force actually felt. The mask may sustain damage but not the wearer.

Perhaps it could be from something as simple as the noise of the impact as evidenced by the ringing in his ears.

[RPatrino]

Now that our FED season is over and we are starting in on our variations of OBR games, does anyone share my reoccuring nightmare?

"TIME.....thats a balk".....CRACK (DING)......Home run"...

(I don't use that mechanic, though, do you?)

[LakeErieUmp]

Had it...and thought I lived it.

A 16-17 year old city travel league two years ago. I hadn't done one before, and when I got to the field PU told me they use Fed rules.

SO, 7th inning, I'm still in cruise control as BU, one on, and pitcher pulled some obvious balk move (two years ago, who remembers). Still in HS mode I'm "balk!" - just as batter meets ball with bat and sends same over F8's head. I stood there for a moment living my nightmare - until I remembered "no wait, I'm right, they said Fed rules!"

Too close for comfort though.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by RPatrino

Now that our FED season is over and we are starting in on our variations of OBR games, does anyone share my reoccuring nightmare?

"TIME.....thats a balk".....CRACK (DING)......Home run"...

(I don't use that mechanic, though, do you?)

heh. Another reason to use the correct mechanic on the switchover (FED----> OBR)

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by RPatrino

Now that our FED season is over and we are starting in on our variations of OBR games, does anyone share my reoccuring nightmare?

"TIME.....thats a balk".....CRACK (DING)......Home run"...

(I don't use that mechanic, though, do you?)

I never really had a problem with getting the different codes mixed up, as I would be assigned HS games all week, and Pony, Colt, or Palomino games (as well as other alphabet leagues) on Saturdays, and then various adult leagues on Sundays. Switching back and forth between rule sets was standard procedure.

[johnnyg08]

You can always use the OBR mechanic...even if you're playing FED rules, to use the OBR mechanic...you can still place the runners...and who cares if you he hits a homerun...you're safe...Yes, I believe in using the proper mechanics...but if you want to be safe...use OBR balk mechanics...what do you guys think?

[Rich]

OBR: "That's a BALK!"

FED: "That's a BALK! TIME!"

What's the problem?

[RPatrino]

Not a problem, Rich!! That's what I do.

As we all know, anything that happens after we call balk in Fed is meaningless. I have worked with those who call TIME, then Balk during Fed games and thats problematic when moving to other rule sets.

[Kaliix]

While a mask will spin off on some hits, it won't on all of them. If you take a ball straight on, HSM or traditional mask, you are going to feel it. I think that is what Rich was saying, that it was a straight on shot.

Originally Posted by RPatrino

I'm not a physiologist, but do you think the headache that Rich felt was due to the way the shock of the blow was distributed by the HSM? With the traditional mask, the impact of the blow causes the mask to spin and fly off the face, and there is little force actually felt. The mask may sustain damage but not the wearer.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by Kaliix

While a mask will spin off on some hits, it won't on all of them. If you take a ball straight on, HSM or traditional mask, you are going to feel it. I think that is what Rich was saying, that it was a straight on shot.

My mask spins off on hard straight-on shots. Worn properly, e.g. loose enough, even straight on shots will cause it to come off.

[Kaliix]

With all due respect, if your mask spun off, it wasn't a straight on hit.

Originally Posted by GarthB

My mask spins off on hard straight-on shots. Worn properly, e.g. loose enough, even straight on shots will cause it to come off.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by Kaliix

With all due respect, if your mask spun off, it wasn't a straight on hit.

With all due respect, when the mask is loose enough a straight on shot will cause it to "bounce" off. I have never had my mask stay in after a hard shot, no matter the location of the shot.

[Kaliix]

Yes, exactly. Bounce off and spin off are completely different in this context. When the mask spins off, the mask is deflecting the majority of the force from your face. The energy isn't absorbed, it is transferred into the spinning motion, which is desirable, since that means it isn't going to your face.

A straight on shot though, will bounce the mask off your face, meaning the force transferred to the pads of the mask which then rebounds. In this case, the pads and subsequently the head absorbs the impact. Not a desirable outcome no matter what mask you choose to use, and one that cannot be avoided on those "dead on straight shots".

Originally Posted by GarthB

With all due respect, when the mask is loose enough a straight on shot will cause it to "bounce" off. I have never had my mask stay in after a hard shot, no matter the location of the shot.