Joe West Does IT AGAIN
 

Well he did it again with another bad call at 2nd. Now I realize that it wasn't as bad as the last time but come on Joe can't you make believe that you enjoy what your doing and move a little instead of just standing there and ho hum your out. Man that make's it so hard to look up to him as an example let alone buy his equiptment. Come on Joe move your #$# and maybe bend a little. And Yes I am a Yankee Fan.

if i'm not mistaken i think that bad call at second not too long ago was by Gerry Davis not Joe West.

Methinks it was Gerry Davis last time.

me thinks Gerry Davis...but that's just me...

On both calls the fielder partially blocked the umpire's view of the play.

Infielders come inside on stolen base attempts most of the time.

The "conclusive" replay is almost always the one from the outfield side.

So why doesn't U2 stay outside so he doesn't get blocked out?

In the "old days" the AL umps were outside and the NL umps inside. How was it decided that inside was the better position?

good points...I have never worked 4 man, but what you're saying makes sense when I think about the replays I've seen in MLB regarding missed calls at 2B

It burns my *** that an MLB umpire again blew a call on a steal at second because he was meandering his way over to second, never came set and never adjusted his angle to get the proper look. Granted this wasn't as close as the Gerry Davis gross miss, but the runner was clearly out.

It is one thing to hustle, be in the right position, adjust to get the best angle you can and just miss a call. But there is no reason for the piss poor mechanics mechanics and just outright laziness that I have seen displayed by MLB umpires this year.

Is it too much to ask of them that they act like they care. Well paid professional umpires shouldn't miss calls because they can't bother to get in position. That is what amateur umpires are for! ;-\

I'm waiting for the MLB umpire groupies here to tell the rest of us these guys have earned the right sit in a Barkalounger and call a game.

The lazy umpire last time was Gerry Davis. Poor Yankees. Boo hoo. Their pitching sucks out loud.:)

So a missed call is acceptable if it goes against a team you don't like?

Of course. It's a long honored baseball tradition.

For fans, yes.

Never let the facts get in the way of a good rant.

Where in my post did I say a missed call is acceptable? PFISTO got all over an umpire for missing a call, and unfairly blamed that umpire for a bad call in another game that he didn't make. So what, Joe West kicked a call. PFISTO, and any other Yank fan couldn't carry Joe West's jock strap to the locker room. Yankee fans are always crying about the umpires this, the umpires that. Bunch of spoiled fans, by George. The reason they have been losing is not the umpires' fault, it's their pitching, which really SUCKS!

I agree, however, that Joe West is not exactly the poster boy for hustle.

Marketing Ploy?
 

Maybe GD and JW have decided that suspect mechanics and blown calls will keep their names in the headlines and help them sell their equipment...

There's nothing like free publicity!

I'm a Yankees fan and this stuff is rediculous. Sure the runner was out, but it was a banger. Joe was probably blocked by F4 recieving the thrown in front of the bag. It was a bad throw by Posada, so maybe they didn't even deserve an out.

Joe West didn't give up hits to the next two batters, why isn't anyone blaming the pitcher?

Then later in the game, Posada was called safe at first on a double play ball. He was out by a quarter of a step. But you don't here Yankees fans crying about that.

Then Jeter gets strikes 2 and 3 called on him to end the game. After strike two he told Wilcox "that was off the plate" as he returned to his side of the plate. Next pitch, same spot (maybe a cm more outside) and Wilcox rang him up. Overhead look showed the pitch probably just clipping the black on the outside corner.

You're down 5 runs, 1-2 pitch, close, and you're not swinging! Whose fault is that!

Yankee fans and players in general (not myself) need to get a grip and realize that the team is just not that good. Stop making excuses, and maybe then they'll get better.

I'm a Yankee fan and I've read the thread and I don't see anyone making excuses for the Yankees losing. I'm just a little exasperated that Major League Umpires could so piss poor in the execution of the standard and accepted mechanics for getting into position to make a call. Both West and Davis didn't hustle, they walked, strolled even. Both West and Davis were still moving when the play happened instead of coming set. Both West and Davis made no effort to adjust their angle to a situation that clearly called for it.

West and Davis are two of the best umpires in MLB, which is why it is even more befuddling that they would be the two to miss a call, in Davis' case a gross miss, that was caused directly by an apathetic lazy approach to a standard situation.

Now I'm not putting the Yankee loss on West. That was a close play. However, that would have been the third out of the inning. Three more runs scored after that. With the right call, that game is a lot closer and a lot more fun to watch, late. Missed calls happen and one of them doesn't cost any team the game. I just hate it that the call was missed because West didn't hustle. There is no excuse for that...

He's being lazy again tonight - hasn't missed one but he is just strolling to position and continues to stroll to make his call.

Well that's it then. Joe West, Gerry Davis - no more umpires selling protective gear!

What about retired football officials?

THEY'RE OK Walt. They won't make calls against the almighty Yankees!

I bet he nailed that balk by Farnsworth though....;)

Then again, if he had thrown the ball it might have hit Joe in the head.

I did not know that Major League Umpires walked on water. ;)

Peace

Whew. At least there's someone left that I can purchase gear from.

Excuse my ignorance Walt, but who's the former football official who sells umpire stuff? I thought the only football protective gear was hunkering down behind a defensive tackle!

What do the Yankee fans think of the no call on A-Rod's slide into second Monday night?

Dick Honig

I think that if interference were called I wouldn't have argued the call at all.

PU and West called the balk at about the same time...

As opposed to ridiculous??? ;)


And who is this "Wilcox" of whom you speak? :confused:

Indeed. ;)

They're(we, myself) are no different than any of the other fanboys pulling for their particular team in their particular sport. Some idiots automatically go into their conspiracy theories every time a close call goes against them. And if an official blows a call, then he is now the devil incarnate. And even if they can't remember what they had for breakfast, they'll remember that call until their dying day. They take it personally; they think that it was made with the sole purpose of pissing them off. Other fanboys(hopefully I'm in this group) see a blown call and they'll say "Damn, he missed that one." Well, maybe we might add a coupla of motherf***s if it happens at a critical time(:D) , but we don't call for a <i>jihad</i> against that particular umpire, referee, etc. We take it for what it is - a human being making a human mistake. We might discuss it, but we ain't gathering the pitchforks and firewood and heading for the castle. Mutter a l'il and let 'er go.

Iow, there's fanboys and there's fanboys. There is no Universal Fanboy.

Of course, the preceding doesn't apply to BoSox fans. They're all azzholes.

It's not about missed calls, but more about lack of hustle. If you're going to waddle around, and not move to get in a good position to make a call, you're going to be a target for abuse no matter what field you're on.

I'll bet dollars to Hostess Ding-Dongs he means "Hickox.":rolleyes:

I know. I just like busting the chops of someone who complains but can't even get his facts correct. ;)

My apoligies - that post was made in haste as I was running out the door.

UMP 25 - just exactly when did I complain? I said Joe West doesn't set when he makes calls, and then continued to blame the loss on the PLAYERS, not the UMPIRES. I commented on some things that the umpires did wrong and right, and that ultimately it was the players who messed up the most.

Not sure what your deal is here...