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GarthB Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:05am

In what part of the great white north do you live? BC? Try a clinic in Seattle. Quebec, Ontario? Try something in upstate New York.

Better yet, save your loonies and attend the Florida or Desert Classic. They've salvaged other Canadian umpires.

tibear Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:15am

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3appleshigh
WOW just WOW, sad statement on those guys. What province Tibear??

Sorry, don't want to identify too much.

RPatrino Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:53pm

Just curious tibear, what kind of mechanics instruction did you recieve after all this 'wizz bang' rules stuff??

tibear Tue Apr 24, 2007 01:24pm

Mechanics weren't bad. He instructed to keep your head on the inside corner and top of the strike zone, make sure you delay before making a call, etc. Don't be afraid to give a little extra on the outside corner in the middle of the strike zone, use the backcatcher's glove to help a bit with the low strikes, always keep your eyes on the ball, etc.

He didn't really tell the guys anything about base positioning which of course is a bit of a problem. Simply told them to get perpendicular to the play and assume the "ready position", see the play, delay and make the call.

I had to ask him about umpire signaling but didn't want to lead him with all kinds of questions that would show he was missing all kinds of information. One of the things I want a clinician to help the guys with is knowing what to do when actually trying to make the call. From what I've read and heard on this site and others is to look at the base and listen for the ball in glove. Not that you don't see the glove at all but to focus on the base, that way you can see if the player is pulled off the bag, see when the runner gets to the bag, etc.

He did go over quite of few of the "myths" to ensure they knew fact from fiction. Nobody walked out thinking that the hands were part of the bat, or a tie went to the runner. :)

TwoBits Tue Apr 24, 2007 02:33pm

With baseball gurus like this clinician living in Canada, its no wonder the Expos left Montreal.:D

ozzy6900 Tue Apr 24, 2007 07:25pm

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Originally Posted by tibear
Last of the confusing clinic questions:

On a fly to short center, the runner tries to score from third, but a strong throw beats him by several feet. The runner slides around the catcher and not only avoids the tag but misses the plate by at least a foot. Hoping to bluff it out, the runner nonchalantly start for the dugout, but the catcher starts chasing him. Trying to avoid the catcher, the runner circles around him getting back to the plate. Is the runner safe?


I'll just say the answer key and clinician said yes. I said the baseline for the runner was established as soon as the catcher was attempting tag and should be ruled out for running outside baseline. Clinician said once the runner is past home there is no baseline and is free to run anywhere to get back to plate.

Are you $hitting me? Come on, you are kidding! Not even LLDan would agree to this!


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