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JRutledge Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:04am

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Originally Posted by Steven Tyler
I must be reading something wrong. You say suggesting your partner didn't have his gear might create a stir up. You say you were truthful with the coaches except for reason c. It also sounds as if the coaches accused you of being less than truthful. Are you being truthful now?

There is no right way to do anything wrong.

They could have told them they had a family issue and that would have been fine with me. It is not the business of the league to know every little detail of why someone does something or not. If they want to change the schedule at the last minute and expect umpires to just fill in without consequence that is the league's problem. What they tell them is more of a moral issue than an ethical issue. Not everything needs a complete and total explanation.

Peace

Rcichon Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:08am

Tuss, give them nowhere to go. I'd have probably said the MAIN reason for not doing the game an hour later is that I have someplace I have to be.

This kid of mixup happens regularly around these parts. Managers forget/neglect/willfully fail to keep the assignor/scheduler in the loop and it isn't the Umpire's responsibility to pay for that mistake. If an Official is willing and able to help then so be it. If not, then that Manager is responsible.

If there IS a shortage of Officials in your area, then the Managers should know this already and take pains to be sure to keep the right people informed just so this sort of thing is averted.

TussAgee11 Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:38am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler
I must be reading something wrong. You say suggesting your partner didn't have his gear might create a stir up. You say you were truthful with the coaches except for reason c. It also sounds as if the coaches accused you of being less than truthful. Are you being truthful now?

There is no right way to do anything wrong.

Don't know what this is about Mr. Tyler -

We chose not to discuss the gear situation, because a coach may know that all umpires should ALWAYS have their gear in the car in case of a no show, injury, etc.

And I feared if I used reason c they may just think we were lazy, which would cause more of a stir up.

And yes, I'm being truthful, why would I lie to a group of umpires abou this?

I understand reason c (i have someplace to be tonight) may have been good enough for the coaches, but it also may not have been and prompted more questions (what do you have to do? etc.) The point was that it wasn't my game that they wanted covered, which was the message we gave.

Kapeesh? (spelling?)

GarthB Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:33pm

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Originally Posted by TussAgee11
Kapeesh? (spelling?)

Capiche. From the Itailian, "Capisci."

TussAgee11 Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:35pm

Merci. (french)

GarthB Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:58pm

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Originally Posted by TussAgee11
(french)

Oui, je sais. J'ai étudié le français pendant cinq années. Bien que j'en aie oublié, je me rappelle assez pour enseigner le français I et II dans le lycée supérieur.

SanDiegoSteve Thu Apr 12, 2007 05:18pm

Stow it Flo! -- Mel from Alice.:)

RPatrino Thu Apr 12, 2007 05:25pm

Hutsay Upsay , as they say in some neighborhoods

canadaump6 Thu Apr 12, 2007 06:00pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
Stow it Flo! -- Mel from Alice.:)

Haha clean it out with Orbit; I prefer to use cough drops.

nickrego Fri Apr 13, 2007 03:26am

[QUOTE=mick]
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Originally Posted by nickrego

...And does the Varsity ump gets both of the $58.00 checks?

Nope, he got $78 for a single-man Varsity game.


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