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bellsjc Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:24pm

new Wilson mask
 
I just purchased the new Wilson chrome moliben new view mask with the wrap arround pads. I have used the PLUS POS ultra light zero gravity mask. I have used that mask the past 3 years and it was very comfortable but every time it took a solid hit, it would put a new dent in the thing. Does anyone use the Wilson mask? Can you give me your opinion on it please. There is still 4 feet of snow here in central NY State but I am getting ready for the new season.

MajorDave Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:34pm

Wilson Model 3077 Chrome Moliben Mask
 
I have this mask. It is one year old. I did about 75 plate games with it last season. I got hit in the mask at least four times that I can remember. I love it. No dents. No headaches. I replaced the black leather wrap-around(pigskin, I think-very porous)pads with black Amara suede wraparound pads. Comfortable in hot and cold weather. The leather one slid around a bit on me. I don't have enough chin protrusion, I guess. I can see the strike zone with it better than with my Honig's double bar with regular mask pads. I highly recommend this mask for anyone.

bellsjc Fri Mar 02, 2007 01:50pm

Thanks. I haven't compaired the weight of the two masks yet but I am anxious to give the new wilson a try.

canablue05 Fri Mar 02, 2007 05:27pm

Best mask I've ever owned.

newump Fri Mar 02, 2007 09:55pm

mask comparison
 
hey bellsjc,
i just got the zero gravity POS mask at the end of last year. it is incredibly light and i love it, but I have heard that it has a tendency to dent. i almost bought the wilson chrome. which is lighter?? is there much difference in weight??
thanks.

greymule Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:04pm

The +POS zero gravity is very comfortable, and it comes in a variety of colors and color combinations. However, It gets knocked out of shape easily. I discarded mine after one season. (So much for the claim of "extremely strong" in the catalogue.)

I now use an All-Star helmet, which is actually more comfortable than any mask I ever wore. It's not that it's so light, but the weight is evenly distributed.

Dave Hensley Sat Mar 03, 2007 03:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bellsjc
I just purchased the new Wilson chrome moliben new view mask with the wrap arround pads. I have used the PLUS POS ultra light zero gravity mask. I have used that mask the past 3 years and it was very comfortable but every time it took a solid hit, it would put a new dent in the thing. Does anyone use the Wilson mask? Can you give me your opinion on it please. There is still 4 feet of snow here in central NY State but I am getting ready for the new season.

I've had the mask for a couple of seasons, with the doeskin Wilson wraparound pads. I like it a lot.

wmblue Sat Mar 03, 2007 04:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bellsjc
I just purchased the new Wilson chrome moliben new view mask with the wrap arround pads.

I have this mask and really like it, the view is great and the weight is not an issue.

For the money, I think I paid ~$100 at Lester's for it it's an outstanding mask.

I've borrowed a zero-gravity mask and didn't really like it, sure it's a bit lighter but it just wasn't comfortable for me nor, in my opinion was the view that good with it.

I took one shot off the Wilson that was memorable, it ended up back near the mound in a Sr. Babe Ruth game, which gives you an indication of the force of the shot and I had no headache or feeling that I just took a shot.

GarthB Sat Mar 03, 2007 04:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by wmblue
I have this mask and really like it, the view is great and the weight is not an issue.

For the money, I think I paid ~$100 at Lester's for it it's an outstanding mask.

I've borrowed a zero-gravity mask and didn't really like it, sure it's a bit lighter but it just wasn't comfortable for me nor, in my opinion was the view that good with it.

I took one shot off the Wilson that was memorable, it ended up back near the mound in a Sr. Babe Ruth game, which gives you an indication of the force of the shot and I had no headache or feeling that I just took a shot.

I did a search last night and found the mask available from $65 to $90.

DonInKansas Sat Mar 03, 2007 06:49pm

This is the best price I've found on it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wilson-Chrome-Mo...QQcmdZViewItem

SanDiegoSteve Sat Mar 03, 2007 08:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAump
Flying mask?

SA, here is today's grammar lesson:


I took (infinitive) one shot (subject) off the Wilson (adverb) that was memorable. It (pronoun for same subject, "the shot") ended up (verb) back near the mound (adverb).

Notice that the mask stayed on his face, but the ball ended up near the mound.:D

I'm sure Garth will be by soon with his red pen to correct my grammatical errors!

wmblue Sat Mar 03, 2007 09:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
SA, here is today's grammar lesson:
I took (infinitive) one shot (subject) off the Wilson (adverb) that was memorable. It (pronoun for same subject, "the shot") ended up (verb) back near the mound (adverb).

Notice that the mask stayed on his face, but the ball ended up near the mound.:D

The mask never moved. Thanks to SDS for the clarification. I did have an old +POS SUL that popped off my face after a foul to the head. I found the ball at my feet, beside my mask. Of course, stepping on the ball, and falling off kilter while being dazed from the hit to the head can best be counted as one of my more embarrassing moments.

wmblue Sat Mar 03, 2007 09:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by GarthB
I did a search last night and found the mask available from $65 to $90.

Sounds right, I'm not normally an early adopter but I did get this mask because I sold my previous one in the off season to someone in my association who needed a mask.

GarthB Sat Mar 03, 2007 09:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
SA, here is today's grammar lesson:


I took (infinitive) one shot (subject) off the Wilson (adverb) that was memorable. It (pronoun for same subject, "the shot") ended up (verb) back near the mound (adverb).

Notice that the mask stayed on his face, but the ball ended up near the mound.:D

I'm sure Garth will be by soon with his red pen to correct my grammatical errors!

Wow. There are too many to discuss right now...I'm fixing dinner, which has priority over fixing your writing.

You could start by looking up "adverb" and "infinitive."

SanDiegoSteve Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:46pm

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Originally Posted by GarthB
Wow. There are too many to discuss right now...I'm fixing dinner, which has priority over fixing your writing.

You could start by looking up "adverb" and "infinitive."

Well, an adverb describes "what, where, and when," and was used in a prepositional phrase. An infinitive is a verb in its pre-conjugated state, such as "to smoke," or "to take." So I shoud have called it a verb. "One" should be and adjective, which is a word that conveys "which, what kind of, or how many."

My bracketing may not be correct, but then again, neither was the run-on sentence structure that I was diagramming.

It was obvious that "shot" meant the ball, and that the ball was still the implied subject of the second sentence.

You see the use of proper grammar daily as a teacher. I haven't taken college English in over 20 years, so I'm quite rusty.

My current term paper does meet proper MLA standards in form. I sure hope my grammar is good as well so I get an A.

LomUmp Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:17pm

Hey all,

How does this mask compare to the upper end Honig's masks? I am helping a friend decide on equipment, and have not personally seen or used this on. I love my Honig's, very strong and very light, and the topic has got me wondering. Thanks.

LomUmp:cool:

BigUmp56 Sun Mar 04, 2007 03:54pm

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Originally Posted by SAump
For one, I strongly object to your deplorable use of incorrectly adding adverbs to the subjects of prepositions off and near; and I also object to the use of "took" as an infinitive. :rolleyes:

For two, grammar isn't my forte; but I know one adjective to corectly describe your sentence structure. I would go back to standard mechanics of noun, verb, adjective and preposition; before using more advanced mechanics such as adverb, gerund or infinitive. :confused:

For three, if the ball ended UP back near the pitcher's mound; it may have only been memorable to WMBLUE and nobody else. Whereas, it would be an entirely different matter had the flying mask ended UP back near the pitcher's mound. Then I could continue the discussion on this SUBJECT. ;)

Maybe you could regale us with the necessary physics it would take for a mask struck with a 100 mph. pitch to fly back to an area near the mound.


Tim.

umpduck11 Sun Mar 04, 2007 03:59pm

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Originally Posted by BigUmp56
Maybe you could regale us with the necessary physics it would take for a mask struck with a 100 mph. pitch to fly back to an area near the mound.


Tim.

Maybe I'm mistaken, but it seems that a rising fastball could possibly accomplish this trick. :rolleyes:

RPatrino Sun Mar 04, 2007 08:44pm

Someone who apparently didn't have to wear the mask for protection.

BigUmp56 Sun Mar 04, 2007 09:16pm

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Originally Posted by PWL
I thought there was a big long thread on this on Officials Unlimited.

You thought wrong. At least I don't recall a thread about it ever being there.


Tim.

DG Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by LomUmp
How does this mask compare to the upper end Honig's masks? I am helping a friend decide on equipment, and have not personally seen or used this on. I love my Honig's, very strong and very light, and the topic has got me wondering.

I can't compare, because I would have to use other brands to do that. But I do have 3 of Honig's best (K91 with pads and harness) single bar lightweights and I am completely satisfied.

gotblue? Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:42pm

Now that the grammar lessons appear to be finished, and the posts are veering back toward relevancy, I would like to ask a question.

Posts in this thread refer to the Wilson Chrome Moliben mask as being "new", and one poster discusses his purchase of one this Spring as putting him in the category of being an "early adopter".

I have a Wilson Chrome Moliben mask that is going into its fourth Spring season, so I would have a hard time referring to this model as being a "new" one. Mine does not have wraparound pads (at least I don't think it does), so is this a design change that has people calling it "new", or has Wilson modified the mask in some way such that it is different from the one that I have been wearing for three years now? Just a matter of curiosity to me.

I like the view that the mask provides nearly as much as the view afforded by the AllStar2300 hockey style mask that was given to me as a Christmas present about 14 months ago. That, combined with its light weight, and no damage to date, make it my choice over the AllStar HSM and other masks.

mrm21711 Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotblue?
Now that the grammar lessons appear to be finished, and the posts are veering back toward relevancy, I would like to ask a question.

Posts in this thread refer to the Wilson Chrome Moliben mask as being "new", and one poster discusses his purchase of one this Spring as putting him in the category of being an "early adopter".

I have a Wilson Chrome Moliben mask that is going into its fourth Spring season, so I would have a hard time referring to this model as being a "new" one. Mine does not have wraparound pads (at least I don't think it does), so is this a design change that has people calling it "new", or has Wilson modified the mask in some way such that it is different from the one that I have been wearing for three years now? Just a matter of curiosity to me.

I like the view that the mask provides nearly as much as the view afforded by the AllStar2300 hockey style mask that was given to me as a Christmas present about 14 months ago. That, combined with its light weight, and no damage to date, make it my choice over the AllStar HSM and other masks.

I believe it was introduced originally with the normal, traditional mask pads. Then after about a year or so, the new "wrap around" Wilson mask pads appeared on the mask. It is also called the "new view" or "Davis new view mask" because of the closer mask frame. Same mask, though.

ctblu40 Tue Mar 06, 2007 09:03am

I'm on my second Wilson Chrome Moliben....
 
... and I love it. Very light, great view. I bought my newest one last month (my other was dented just a little) complete with wrap around pads. After doing some pre-season cage work, I've decided to switch the wrap around pads out with the pads from my 3 yr old mask. The wrap arounds are simply not as comfortable as the old "square" ones, IMO.

BTW- I was going to look into getting a different brand, but I just really like the Wilson.... so I stayed with that.

gotblue? Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:56pm

I concur...at least initially
 
I just picked up my second Wilson ChromeMoliben mask (got a reasonable deal on eBay, new, not used), as my teenage son began boosting my original one last fall to umpire LL games. My first has the original mask pads, the new one has the wraparounds.

My first impression is that the old pads are more comfortable, also. I will, however, give the wraparounds a fair trial.

One thing that I notice about the wraparounds is that, on the lower (chin) pad, the groove in the front of the pad that the cage is supposed to seat in (it is supposed to do that, isn't it?), does not seem to be contoured to match the corresponding wire of the mask. When the mask arrived, the cage was not seated in the groove, and the pad felt much bulkier. After considerable tweaking of the Velcro fasteners, I got it close to being seated, and the pad was more comfortable after that.

NickG Wed Mar 07, 2007 07:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
SA, here is today's grammar lesson:


I took (infinitive) one shot (subject) off the Wilson (adverb) that was memorable. It (pronoun for same subject, "the shot") ended up (verb) back near the mound (adverb).

Notice that the mask stayed on his face, but the ball ended up near the mound.:D

I'm sure Garth will be by soon with his red pen to correct my grammatical errors!


Better:

I (subject) took (verb - simple past) one (adj.) shot (direct object) off the Wilson (prepositional phrase) that was memorable (relative clause). It (subject) ended up (verb phrase) back (indirect object) near the mound (prepositional phrase).

Don't ask how I know.

SanDiegoSteve Wed Mar 07, 2007 09:33pm

Yes, Eye'm gunna go git Huked On Foniks fur my bad gramer.:)


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