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David B Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:45pm

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One other question while its fresh on my mind - has anyone had a coach request that the other coach stay in the box??? :rolleyes:

We haven't had it even brought up and I'm not going to mention it but just wondering?

Thanks
David

LMan Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:47pm

Not yet.



Of course, I work my first game on the 20th. :p

David B Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:51pm

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Originally Posted by LMan
Not yet.



Of course, I work my first game on the 20th. :p

Yes we start this Friday - of course I'm still in basketball for the next couple of weeks, but might be able to squeeze a game on Saturday!

Thanks
David

Rich Ives Tue Feb 13, 2007 01:06pm

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Originally Posted by David B
One other question while its fresh on my mind - has anyone had a coach request that the other coach stay in the box??? :rolleyes:

We haven't had it even brought up and I'm not going to mention it but just wondering?

Thanks
David


Let's see, if I complain about the other team, they'll make ME stay in the box too.

Nope - don't think so.

MadCityRef Tue Feb 13, 2007 01:15pm

And if one coach violates the rule, are both coaches restricted to the dugout? The rule is an open-ended statement. Taken literally, that's what it says.

I've never had this come up. Somewhere in the USA it must be a big problem for it to make it into the book but Wilson (gold & black) was able to get the Rawling white & red labels thrown out of games, so go figure.

umpduck11 Tue Feb 13, 2007 04:06pm

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Originally Posted by LMan
Not yet.



Of course, I work my first game on the 20th. :p

Why so late LMan ? Mine is on the 19th. :D

LMan Tue Feb 13, 2007 04:22pm

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Originally Posted by umpduck11
Why so late LMan ? Mine is on the 19th. :D

damfino.vvvvv

bossman72 Tue Feb 13, 2007 06:15pm

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Originally Posted by David B
One other question while its fresh on my mind - has anyone had a coach request that the other coach stay in the box??? :rolleyes:

We haven't had it even brought up and I'm not going to mention it but just wondering?

Thanks
David

No, but equally as stupid, i had a head coach call time and inform me that the 3rd baseman of the other team is holding a runner on with one foot in foul territory (OBR). I looked at him with that "you've gotta be $hitting me" expression after he said that. haha


(At the moment i'm having a brain fart, so i'll ask this question): What is the penalty for this under OBR? Is this an ejection for failure to comply after multiple warnings (like when pitchers take their signs from off the rubber)? or is this a "do over" (since the ball can't be in play until all fielders are in fair territory)? or something else?

BigUmp56 Tue Feb 13, 2007 07:20pm

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Originally Posted by bossman72


(At the moment i'm having a brain fart, so i'll ask this question): What is the penalty for this under OBR? Is this an ejection for failure to comply after multiple warnings (like when pitchers take their signs from off the rubber)? or is this a "do over" (since the ball can't be in play until all fielders are in fair territory)? or something else?


From the JEA:

First basemen often position one foot in foul territory while holding a runner on first base. On the Major League level, this is acceptable and not considered a violation of the rule. The National Association Leagues' umpires are instructed to permit this unless a complaint is raised. If so, they are told to enforce the rule as written for both teams (similar to the "coach being out of the box" type situation). Defensive players are not allowed to be in foul territory to back-up appeal plays or pitches. No penalty is provided. The umpire simply does not allow play while this condition exists. If a player refuses to comply, he should be ejected.


Tim.

mrm21711 Tue Feb 13, 2007 08:05pm

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Originally Posted by bossman72
No, but equally as stupid, i had a head coach call time and inform me that the 3rd baseman of the other team is holding a runner on with one foot in foul territory (OBR). I looked at him with that "you've gotta be $hitting me" expression after he said that. haha


(At the moment i'm having a brain fart, so i'll ask this question): What is the penalty for this under OBR? Is this an ejection for failure to comply after multiple warnings (like when pitchers take their signs from off the rubber)? or is this a "do over" (since the ball can't be in play until all fielders are in fair territory)? or something else?

Youre obviously confusing OBR with FED, but it is stupid as we all know. Well, except for boyinblue and Dan, that is.

bossman72 Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:49pm

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Originally Posted by mrm21711
Youre obviously confusing OBR with FED, but it is stupid as we all know. Well, except for boyinblue and Dan, that is.

Yes, i know that OBR you need 2 feet in to be "in play," but i was just dumbfounded that the coach actually brought up that nit-picky play. I did tell him that it would be enforced equally for both teams.

Even if his runner got picked off, i couldn't do anything about it if his foot was in foul (or both for that matter) since there is no penalty.

BigTex Wed Feb 14, 2007 03:14pm

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Originally Posted by bossman72
No, but equally as stupid, i had a head coach call time and inform me that the 3rd baseman of the other team is holding a runner on with one foot in foul territory (OBR). I looked at him with that "you've gotta be $hitting me" expression after he said that. haha


(At the moment i'm having a brain fart, so i'll ask this question): What is the penalty for this under OBR? Is this an ejection for failure to comply after multiple warnings (like when pitchers take their signs from off the rubber)? or is this a "do over" (since the ball can't be in play until all fielders are in fair territory)? or something else?


What level are you working where the THIRD baseman is holding the runner on?

bossman72 Wed Feb 14, 2007 06:31pm

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Originally Posted by BigTex
What level are you working where the THIRD baseman is holding the runner on?


16 year old colt league

MadCityRef Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:24pm

The "rule" you are referencing came to the books by "coaches" complaints. The is no "Conspiracy Theory" . . . since this is your second reference to this exact issue I think we now recognize that you have made up your own mind without facts.

Regards,[/QUOTE]

I got that nugget from a source in Indianapolis. Just because they're both sponsors doesn't mean there isn't competition.
One coach said to me, "What's next? Outlaw white pitchers?"

Go Ducks!!!

Second? You keeping tabs on me Big Bro C??


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