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Mon Jan 22, 2007, 06:13pm
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Bob good point.
If the BU is waiting for an out call and the ball is misplayed yet still caught for an out then there could be problems. There is no doubt that the best practice is, as has been stated that you need to be ready for a play such as this and be in good position to see as much as you can and prepared to cover either base. Do any of you work with the same umpire enough to have some type of signal to let your partner know that you saw a goood or bad tag up? 
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Mon Jan 22, 2007, 08:35pm
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No, I don't have any signal or plan to use one. The tagups, as BU, are my responsiblity, if I missed it I missed it, no way PU should be looking for anything other than fair foul or catch no catch, or moving up the line towards third with R1 and not dealing with MY tagups.
If I missed a tagup, I missed it, and if PU was to help me on MY call, managers around here would pick me apart, and have good reason to do so.
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Mon Jan 22, 2007, 08:46pm
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I agree BU has both runners, and a large percentage of the time the throw is not going to 3B but 2B to keep R1 out of scoring position. Unless it is shallow and then R2 probably is not going anyway.
Last edited by DG; Mon Jan 22, 2007 at 08:49pm.
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Mon Jan 22, 2007, 08:57pm
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I don't see how anyone could advocate that PU take the runner into 3rd in this situation.
PU has fair/foul, then catch/no catch. He should be straddling the line and moving toward 1b. Anyway you slice it, the PU could not get anywhere near 3b to make a call there.
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Mon Jan 22, 2007, 09:47pm
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Bob:
IF I were the Minor League instructor I would say to you the following:
"Mr. Patrino the answer is obvious . . . if you, as an umpire, REALLY believe in "angle over distance" think about this play . . . the PU, no matter HOW FAR FROM THE PLAY has the "angle" for the call over the BU WHO WILL NEVER have the Angle!" The MiLB instructor is simply testing those that say "angle over distance" and this is an excellent example of that concept. Regards,
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Mon Jan 22, 2007, 10:12pm
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Mon Jan 22, 2007, 10:35pm
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I think the only way to dispel this is to consider how this would have to be covered if the PU were to be able to get to third. Someone has to stay with the catch/no catch after the PU determines fair/foul. If the PU is heading to third, it's not him. So the BU would have to pick up the catch/no catch aspect of this along with the tag of first and second on the first touch. So the BU would have to slide over from C and line up the touch and both tags while the PU busts a$$ down to third. Yup, it's idiotic.
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