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Old Sat Jan 20, 2007, 11:21pm
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I make $30 for a friggen machine pitch game. And i make $45 for doing a U9 travel baseball game. I can't imagine doing a varsity game for next to nothing. I hope that works out for you though. That is something I would never do.
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Old Wed Jan 24, 2007, 04:23pm
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an association who accepts less payment for the bases is absurd. implying that plate versus base makes a difference in a two man blows major goats...this is bad IMO for a couple reasons...1. younger umpires might not get a chance to learn the plate due to certain money hungry experienced umpires. 2. to determine that one job on the field is more/less important than the other is just plain wrong...
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Old Wed Jan 24, 2007, 04:24pm
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the varisty games are probably easier than your U9 games. typically the higher the level of game, the "easier" they are to work...
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Old Wed Jan 24, 2007, 04:37pm
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the varisty games are probably easier than your U9 games. typically the higher the level of game, the "easier" they are to work...
Yeah, that's why we start all our beginning umpires at D-1 and let them work their way up to LL.
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Old Wed Jan 24, 2007, 04:44pm
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Yeah, that's why we start all our beginning umpires at D-1 and let them work their way up to LL.
I knew you would disagree with this. As soon as I read it, I wondered how long until Garth chimed in.
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Old Wed Jan 24, 2007, 11:10pm
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Pay difference plate vs. base

Getting back on topic, and to address Rich's question about the pay difference, I can't say I've honestly ever heard a reason for the difference. I'm in my 5th year of HS ball, and it's been that way since I've been in this region, and I think all of SC is that way as well. Nobody seems to mind or complain, to my knowledge. My guess is it came about in SC mainly due to the fact you are the UIC and have to wear the gear for the game. But, it is an interesting question, and I'm inclined to try to find the answer. I'm not going to dispute that both umpires are equally crucial to a successfully called game - they are. In all other ball in this area, the rate is the same for either plate or bases, so that also adds evidence to the fact the difference is probably directed by the SC High School League.

In my region, at least, most schedules are pretty balanced - that is, you'll typically get an equal number of plate games and base games, so it tends to balance out, which is probably why nobody minds the difference. Now, I do now some guys who are excellent plate men who tend to do more plate games, but mainly as a result of their skill, not demanding more plate time for the extra bucks. Honestly, the more experienced guys in my association tend to not want to do the plate games to avoid the wear and tear on the knees.
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Old Wed Jan 24, 2007, 11:38pm
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In my region, at least, most schedules are pretty balanced - that is, you'll typically get an equal number of plate games and base games, so it tends to balance out, which is probably why nobody minds the difference. Now, I do now some guys who are excellent plate men who tend to do more plate games, but mainly as a result of their skill, not demanding more plate time for the extra bucks. Honestly, the more experienced guys in my association tend to not want to do the plate games to avoid the wear and tear on the knees.
In my association the assignor assigns umpires to their position and the more experienced umpires are generally assigned the plate. If I am assigned bases with someone I know to be less experienced I say nothing to the assignor if he does an average job, but if he does a superior job I will tell my assignor. It don't happen in a conference game between two good teams. And the guys with more experience might say they don't care, but deep down they really want the plate. Unless you are recovering from an appendectomy, who doesn't? Pay is the same.
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Old Fri Jan 26, 2007, 03:03pm
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I can't say I've honestly ever heard a reason for the difference.
Not all associations assign base / plate responsibilities. They leave it up to the umpiring crew with seniority being the "trump card".

Therefore, you had a very inequitable plate / base schedule. If you were a first year Varisty Official, you would have something like 15-20 plates in a row.

The vets would take the plate come playoff time because that's where you "earn your stripes" but would do the bases almost the entire regular season yet earn the same pay.

With the aforementioned inequities, some associations then decided to give a pay differential so that one person would not do the plate the entire season.

I do not advocate it but I understand it. In my association you get a mixture of plate / base responsibilities during the season.

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