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GarthB Thu Jan 11, 2007 01:45am

"Control of the ballgame is the difference between umpires that show up for the players and the managers."

Did Bruce really say that? It makes no sense. The thought is incomplete. When you say something "is the difference between..." you need two items to show the difference.

So control of the ballgame is the difference between umpires that (sic) show up for the players and managers, and what?

BigUmp56 Thu Jan 11, 2007 03:58am

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Originally Posted by GarthB

So control of the ballgame is the difference between umpires that (sic) show up for the players and managers, and what?


Hot dog and a Coke?


Tim.

buckeyetc71 Thu Jan 11, 2007 06:30am

I thought it was 8 and 5 also, did this change?

gotblue? Thu Jan 11, 2007 08:37am

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So control of the ballgame is the difference between umpires that (sic) show up for the players and managers, and what?
Is it ... the difference between umpires that [sic] show up for the players, and those who show up for the managers?

That reading would make it more of a complete thought, but has any umpire ever showed up for the managers, but not for the players?

Tim C Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:48am

"8 prep. pitches 1st ing. and 6 afterward to be completed within 1 minute"

Must be a Texas JV game rule.

One Rule ~ One Interpretation ~ One Mechanic

Skahtboi Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:15am

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Originally Posted by GarthB
"Control of the ballgame is the difference between umpires that show up for the players and the managers."

Did Bruce really say that? It makes no sense. The thought is incomplete. When you say something "is the difference between..." you need two items to show the difference.

So control of the ballgame is the difference between umpires that (sic) show up for the players and managers, and what?

According to Baseball Almanac, Froemming did indeed say those exact words! You can check out the quotes by clicking here.

SAump Fri Jan 12, 2007 07:13am

See More Often
 
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Originally Posted by PFISTO
Good evening,
I was just sitting here STOP and I was wondering STOP what type of call do you see the most. STOP I mean calls like interference, obstruction, pitching infractions, batting out of order. STOP Calls that would make you reference the rule code. STOP I hope I asked this question clearly.STOP
Thanks mike

1 Game 2 Teams 3 Strikes 4 Balls 5 Skills 6 Outs 7 Innings 8 Warm-up Pitches 9 Players 10-Run Rule

Dave Hensley Fri Jan 12, 2007 08:33am

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Originally Posted by buckeyetc71
I thought it was 8 and 5 also, did this change?

Maybe that's one of those new innovative mechanics they teach at that San Antonio clinic he's touting. :)

SAump Fri Jan 12, 2007 09:17pm

A Better LL/OBR Rule
 
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Originally Posted by Dave Hensley
Maybe that's one of those new innovative mechanics they teach at that San Antonio clinic he's touting. :)

Don't the FED/NCAA rulemakes realize the situation? A ball leads to a walk, a walk leads to a runner, a leadoff runner leads to a run, and a run leads to a longer game. I don't even want to get into an ejection report, let me just say I would have saved more time ignoring the ONE extra pitch. The PITCH at best warrants a "don't do that" and at worse should be completly ignored.

BigUmp56 Fri Jan 12, 2007 09:23pm

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Originally Posted by SAump
Don't the FED/NCAA rulemakes realize the situation? A ball leads to a walk, a walk leads to a runner, a leadoff runner leads to a run, and a run leads to a longer game. I don't even want to get into an ejection report, let me just say I would have saved more time ignoring the ONE extra pitch. The PITCH at best warrants a "don't do that" and at worse should be completly ignored.

Translation = "I didn't know it was only five pitches."


Tim.

SAump Fri Jan 12, 2007 09:43pm

Eval Report
 
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Originally Posted by BigUmp56
Translation = "I didn't know it was only five pitches."

Tim.

SAump doesn't count pitches. :D

SanDiegoSteve Sat Jan 13, 2007 02:45am

Quote:

Originally Posted by GarthB
"Control of the ballgame is the difference between umpires that show up for the players and the managers."

Did Bruce really say that? It makes no sense. The thought is incomplete. When you say something "is the difference between..." you need two items to show the difference.

So control of the ballgame is the difference between umpires that (sic) show up for the players and managers, and what?

I think Bruce meant to say that control of the ballgame is the difference between umpires that show up for the players and the managers and the ones that just want a paycheck and hide behind their partners. You know, from the previous sentence? Bruce just didn't state it properly.

SanDiegoSteve Sat Jan 13, 2007 02:47am

Guess it's time to pick a new signature line.:cool:

SAump Sun Jan 14, 2007 01:33pm

Most Common Rule 2.00
 
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Originally Posted by SAump
1 Game 2 Teams 3 Strikes 4 Balls 5 Skills 6 Outs 7 Innings 8 Warm-up Pitches 9 Players 10-Run Rule

Common Terms Part 2 - Neutral
1 Field 2 Play 3 Fair Ball 4 Foul Ball/Tip 5 Dead Ball 6 Conference 7 Award 8 Penalty 9 Re-enter 10 Malicious Contact
Common Terms Part 3 - Offense
1 Safe 2 Batter 3 Runner 4 Substitute 5 DH 6 Base on Balls 7 Slide 8 HBP 9 Bunt 10 Retouch 11 Interference
Common Terms Part 4 - Defense
1 Fielders 2 Catch 3 Pitch 4 Force 5 Tag 6 Third Strike Not Caught 7 Infield Fly 8 Balk 9 Obstruction 10 Forfeit
Note: Parts 1-4 were done on the FLY and still under construction.
Note: Part 5 - Scoring and other things were left off the list. Ex. Plate, Box, Batted Ball, Time, H, E, FC, SAC, K, DP, SB, etc.

PeteBooth Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:32am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PFISTO
Good evening,
I was just sitting here going over the 2007 NFHS rules and I was wondering besides balls and strikes and plays at any base what type of call do you see the most. I mean calls like interference, obstruction, pitching infractions, batting out of order. Calls that would make you reference the rule code. I hope I asked this question clearly.
Thanks mike


Tee gave you an excelllent list but in a FED game I would know and be able to auote the rules for when a ball is immediately dead vs. delayed dead and also the base awards.

In the FED rule book they have a concise table concerning the aforementioned.

Another rule that doesn't come up from game to game but you need to know is the Malicious Contact Rule.

Example:

B1 is obstructed by F3 rounding first base but B1 levels F3. In OBR (even in LL), you let play continue until it's completion. You penalize the OBS and you might have an EJ.

In FED, the Malicous act Supercedes the OBS and you call B1 out.

A coach might request time and ask "Hey Blue why isn't the OBS penalized, I can replace the ejected player with a bench player and put him on second base.

Pete Booth


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