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PFISTO Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:02pm

Ball Bags
 
Good Morning,
Just wondering what kind of ball bags you guys wear. Right now I wear the Carllucci bag and its pretty good. I see the one that POS sells is no longer available as it looked pretty nice. I like the idea of the zippered back to hold keys and cash. Also how many of you wear 2 bags behind the plate???
Thanks Mike

Dakota Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:20pm

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Originally Posted by PFISTO
...I see the one that POS sells is no longer available as it looked pretty nice. I like the idea of the zippered back to hold keys and cash. ...

Is this the bag you are looking for?

LakeErieUmp Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:21pm

The only time I have two bags behind the plate is when my wife and mother-in-law show up.

Serious, though, I've never been handed enough game balls to need two bags.

SanDiegoSteve Mon Dec 11, 2006 01:07pm

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Originally Posted by LakeErieUmp
The only time I have two bags behind the plate is when my wife and mother-in-law show up.

Serious, though, I've never been handed enough game balls to need two bags.

:D

I wear two. Usually, I don't get enough game balls to fill both bags, but it just looks better. I carry a small towel in the left hand bag, and any extra baseballs.

There have been quite a few occasions when I've received more game balls than even two bags could handle. That's always a good problem to have.

Tim C Mon Dec 11, 2006 01:10pm

Hmmm,
 
Every year as we move into the new season someone brings forth the "UmpAttire" ball bag.

It is a very good bag for softball and small diamond umpires. I do not know of any upper divison umpires that wear the "UmpAttire" bag.

When not wearing a plate coat I always wear two ball bags.

"Most" game balls go in the left bag (as I am left handed) and any extras drop in the right bag. Since I wear Honig's bags there is a pocket inside the right bag where I keep my plate brush . . . I also keep lineup cards and pens (cool small slot for the red pen) in the right bag.

I just like the "level" look of two bags.

Wear what you want and are comfortable with . . .

Regards,

greymule Mon Dec 11, 2006 02:35pm

Is this the bag you are looking for?

That one looks pretty good, but it's not the one that +POS had a while back. Too bad that's one's no longer available. Not only did it have the zippered compartment, it was also tough and well put together. I've had one for years and have experienced none of the usual loosening of threads at stress points.

orioles35 Mon Dec 11, 2006 02:53pm

doesn't that take the hair off?

LLPA13UmpDan Mon Dec 11, 2006 04:27pm

1 for reg. season since i only get 2 game balls (:eek: ) and two for tournaments where im given 6 or more. Im left handed, but when i wear only one its on my right side :p

ozzy6900 Mon Dec 11, 2006 07:34pm

I use two ball bags a-la Gerry Davis Sports unless I am wearing a plate coat. My brush is kept in the right fanny pocket. I do not keep seeds or any of that paraphernalia in my bags. Pen and pencil in the right bag, line up card in the shirt pocket (or inside pocket on the plate coat). No zippers, no flash, no flair, just plain old ball bags with inside pockets.

briancurtin Mon Dec 11, 2006 09:13pm

i always wear two. black when the shirt color calls for it, and navy when the shirt color calls for it.

DG Mon Dec 11, 2006 09:23pm

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Originally Posted by Tim C
"Most" game balls go in the left bag (as I am left handed) and any extras drop in the right bag. Since I wear Honig's bags there is a pocket inside the right bag where I keep my plate brush . . . I also keep lineup cards and pens (cool small slot for the red pen) in the right bag.

Being right handed I am similar but opposite. My right ball bag carries only balls. The left bag has plate brush in the front pocket, ink pen in the small center pocket, and lineup holder in the rear pocket. I keep a small blue wash cloth size rag in the rear also during warm weather. My car key is in the left bag.

If I have 5 balls then 3 are in the right and 2 on the left. If 4 then 3 are on the right and 1 on the left. If 3 then 2 are on the right and 1 on the left. If 2 they are both on the right. If 1 it is on the right. If I throw my last ball in I don't stop play but I make sure the home team knows it. It's a nearly unconscious system, two bags, all the "stuff" in the left bag, and the right bag is the "working" bag.

gotblue? Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim C
Every year as we move into the new season someone brings forth the "UmpAttire" ball bag.

It is a very good bag for softball and small diamond umpires. I do not know of any upper divison umpires that wear the "UmpAttire" bag.

When not wearing a plate coat I always wear two ball bags.


I just like the "level" look of two bags.

Wear what you want and are comfortable with . . .

Just curious why you acknowledge that the UmpAttire bag is "very good" for softball and small diamond, but apparently not for "upper division". You mention the "level" look of two bags. Is the "UmpAttire" too large (it looks big in the images) to wear two of them, so it would only be worn on one side? Or is there some other factor that makes it not so good for upper level ball? Not trying to be contentious, just trying to understand the point you are making.

Tim C Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:47pm

"Or is there some other factor that makes it not so good for upper level ball?"

Pretty simple: the bag SCREAMS small diamond umpire.

In my opinion it rivals a "fanny pack" on the PU.

Stick with real ball bags.

Regards,

Lawrence.Dorsey Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:15pm

I like some things about the Ump-Attire bags. I really like the quality and thickness of the bag. For some reason, I am able to reach in grab out baseballs easier than I can in other bags that are constructed out of thinner materials. I don't care for the zipper pockets because I don't want a lot of junk rolling around in there and frankly you really can't access them easily enough during games anyway. I don't care for the elastic top. Unneccesary and it does scream rookie. Give me an Ump-Attire bag without the zipper pocket and elastic and I'll use them more often.

Lawrence

UMP25 Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:27pm

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Originally Posted by Tim C
I just like the "level" look of two bags.

Indeed. When I wear only one ball bag, I feel out of balance, as if i'm going to lean right and fall over. Having that other bag on my left side keeps me level. :D

gotblue? Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim C
"Or is there some other factor that makes it not so good for upper level ball?"

Pretty simple: the bag SCREAMS small diamond umpire.

In my opinion it rivals a "fanny pack" on the PU.

Stick with real ball bags.

Regards,


I guess that I was thinking about some other "performance" factor or "functional' factor. But I am now also curious with respect to what it is it about the bag (I assume something about its appearance) that makes it "scream" small diamond umpire. I must admit that I did not know that, other than color coordination with uniform, the fashion police would be critiquing ball bags on other grounds.

Obviously, I am a small diamond umpire, but am willing to be educated at every opportunity.

UMP25 Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:51pm

I'm surprised no one's mentioned the leather ones from Honig's. :eek:

Here they are.

SanDiegoSteve Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:54pm

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Originally Posted by UMP25
I'm surprised no one's mentioned the leather ones from Honig's. :eek:

Those don't scream "small diamond," they scream, "screaming queen!!!":D

UMP25 Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:55pm

Do "small" umpires get their own unique bags, too? (Someone doesn't know their English.)

Large umpires ball bag

UMP25 Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:56pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
Those don't scream "small diamond," they scream, "screaming queen!!!":D

Not that there's anything wrong with it. (With a nod to Jerry, Elaine, and the gang.)

SanDiegoSteve Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:58pm

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Originally Posted by gotblue?
I guess that I was thinking about some other "performance" factor or "functional' factor. But I am now also curious with respect to what it is it about the bag (I assume something about its appearance) that makes it "scream" small diamond umpire. I must admit that I did not know that, other than color coordination with uniform, the fashion police would be critiquing ball bags on other grounds.

Obviously, I am a small diamond umpire, but am willing to be educated at every opportunity.

Okay, here goes:

Anything other than solid color, cloth, minimum 10" length (but preferably 11-1/2"), navy or black, no zippers, no drawstrings, no elastic ball bags are considered "small diamond." Only pro-style ball pockets are considered "professional" looking. The others look like slow-pitch softball equipment.

LomUmp Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:02am

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Originally Posted by UMP25
I'm surprised no one's mentioned the leather ones from Honig's. :eek:

Here they are.

Hey all,

A leather bag to put your balls in?!?!?!? The S&M leagues ought to love that one!!:eek:

LomUmp:cool:

UMP25 Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:03am

Does anyone know ANYbody who has used one of those leather ones?

briancurtin Tue Dec 12, 2006 01:42am

the only time i ever saw one was at our winter clinic at the honigs table. luke and i checked it out and even the honigs guy working the table thought they were ridiculous.

it would go well with some heather grey chaps

kylejt Tue Dec 12, 2006 01:49am

I'm holding out for the patent leather ones. Match those with a patent leather beanie, and you've got a spot waiting for you in the Village People's next tour.

Leather ball bags are just wrong.

GarthB Tue Dec 12, 2006 01:50am

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Originally Posted by UMP25
Does anyone know ANYbody who has used one of those leather ones?

Somewhere, someplace, in some LL association there is an "umpire" who is very proud to be the only one wearing leather ball bags...and on the bases at that.

ozzy6900 Tue Dec 12, 2006 06:38am

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Originally Posted by UMP25
I'm surprised no one's mentioned the leather ones from Honig's. :eek:

Here they are.

I think I'm going to puke!

ozzy6900 Tue Dec 12, 2006 07:11am

Okay, this is a nice article about ball bags and all the wonderful things that a user can stuff into them! Let's face it, why do you want all that garbage hanging off your belt anyway? Your car keys can go into your pants pocket. Go to the hardware store and get a duplicate made. You don't need a ring with 100 keys with you on the field. Those you can keep in the car. You don't need towels, rags and other dodad's either. Try wearing UnderArmor, or Interawear or other "sweat control" garments. That will help keep you cooler.

Now this is a picture of a basic ball bag. No frills, no pockets, just a bag.

http://www.gerrydavis.com/Merchant2/...00001/bb10.jpg

Here is a picture of the same bag with pockets sewn in for indicators, pens and brushes. If you wear two bags, you could put a wash cloth in one to wipe off (if you really need to).

http://www.gerrydavis.com/Merchant2/.../bBb10npgp.jpg

The reason that the Ultimate Ball Bag screams of "inexperience" is because it was designed for people who think that they need to take everything (including the kitchen sink) with them onto the field. The worst problem is because of all the compartments and all the junk many people take with them, it takes forever to find what you need - when you need it! This bag also looks like an amateur's bag just by the design alone! Compare the belt loops on the Ultimate Ball Bag with the full loop design of the ones above. There is no comparison. So if you want to look like a schmuck out there, by the Ultimate Ball Bag and enjoy yourself. If you want to look like you belong to the S&M crowd, get the leather bag and a couple of "butch collars" for after the game. If you want to look professional then get bags like the ones above.

Lastly, a pen contains ink an a pencil contains "lead" (graphite). There is no such thing as an ink-pen because they do not make pencil-pens. Just call it a pen, please.

Uncle George Tue Dec 12, 2006 09:25am

Ball Bags
 
I like to wear two. Doing so gives me an opportunity to rotate the balls evenly. I leave my keys usually in the fuel door or use a magnetic key holder and place it somewhere under the car or I put them in my back pocket.

tjones1 Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:12am

I wear two of the large umpires ball bags from Honig's, color depending on what shirt I'm wearing.

LMan Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:59am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
Those don't scream "small diamond," they scream, "screaming queen!!!":D


Hmmmm.....

so I guess rhinestones are out, too, huh.

bossman72 Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:01pm

1 or 2 depending on the level of the game and the number of baseballs i expect to be used.

PFISTO Tue Dec 12, 2006 06:17pm

Bags
 
Wow lots of thoughts here. I plan on using 2 bags this year (my second) I think it looks much better and balanced as I saw a PU with 2 and really liked the look. As far as which bag I'm a little surprised as to the negitave response to the ultimate bag but I can understand why. I think I will just get another Carlucci bag and use 2 of his but they are a little big for 2 bags but great for 1 bag. I think that a good bag would have rounded bottom corners as balls are round and a little taper on top not elastic and of course a pocket for brush and penciles.
Thanks for all your time and thoughts

LLPA13UmpDan Tue Dec 12, 2006 06:23pm

Ok, does it really matter which ball bag you wear. Sure I wear the Honigs black ones, but they all serve the same purpose- to hold balls.

SanDiegoSteve Tue Dec 12, 2006 06:43pm

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Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan
Ok, does it really matter which ball bag you wear. Sure I wear the Honigs black ones, but they all serve the same purpose- to hold balls.

The black leather ones? I heard they're really great for holding balls.:D

Tim C Tue Dec 12, 2006 09:32pm

Dan
 
I am afraid, that in your quest to fake as a "kid umpire", you have mistaken this entire issue.

Coaches "evaluate" umpires as they walk on the field. Ball bags, as with the remainder of your uniform, establish who you are (and sadly, your ability) before you call a pitch.

If you really feel "bags just hold balls" then your fake as persona is again exposed . . . we are, sadly, judged before we call a pitch . . . and (again) sadly everything from ball bags to clean pants make a difference in your advancement to success.

See, RATS, want anything to attack . . . we just need to redirect that to our performance . . .

Dress the part and you have one step up on the "others".

Regards,

LLPA13UmpDan Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:03pm

No Steve I wasnt referring to the honigs leather ones. im talking about the regular black ones (narrow top) ones. They dont look much different, but they fit better on your belt and belt loops. And Tim, sure i know how important dress is, we have a specific dress code too. But i dont think that a coach will really care what type of ball bag you are wearing unless its an unorthodox style, such as pink or orange. To bobjenkins, when will you get the pooper-scooper out here? You have mess to clean :p

briancurtin Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:38pm

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Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan
To bobjenkins, when will you get the pooper-scooper out here? You have mess to clean :p

the ball bags go on the sides of your pants, dan.
not in the back.

GarthB Wed Dec 13, 2006 01:53am

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Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan
No Steve I wasnt referring to the honigs leather ones. im talking about the regular black ones (narrow top) ones. They dont look much different, but they fit better on your belt and belt loops.

God forgive me for asking, but which "regular ones" are narrow at the top?

LLPA13UmpDan Wed Dec 13, 2006 07:41am

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Originally Posted by GarthB
God forgive me for asking, but which "regular ones" are narrow at the top?

http://www.honigs.com/detail.asp?Cat=2&Sub=38&Item=1061
http://www.honigs.com/img_item_full/K41.jpg

LomUmp Wed Dec 13, 2006 04:56pm

Hey all,

Do you use the tapered bags to make it harder for things to go in or come out?:confused: Anything but a regular square, fabric, non-tapered ball bag gives the impression that you might not be a proficient umpire because it isn't considered to be "normal".

BTW, 2 ball bags, color dependent on the shirt color. Second bag is also useful to separate damp, not soaked, baseballs from dry ones.

LomUmp:cool:

kylejt Wed Dec 13, 2006 09:49pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by LomUmp
Anything but a regular square, fabric, non-tapered ball bag gives the impression that you might not be a proficient umpire because it isn't considered to be "normal".
LomUmp:cool:

Pa-leeze.

Now beanies on the other hand........

SanDiegoSteve Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:28pm

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Originally Posted by kylejt
Pa-leeze.

Now beanies on the other hand........

I agree. They always made Ed Montague look smittyish.

GarthB Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:36pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
I agree. They always made Ed Montague look smittyish.

Nahhh. It just made him look like a dork.

GarthB Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:40pm

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Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan


<sigh>

You can take the umpire out of Little League, but can you take the Little League out of the umpire?

SanDiegoSteve Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:41am

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Originally Posted by GarthB
Nahhh. It just made him look like a dork.

It's just that most of the Smitties I have encountered have coincedently worn beanie plate hats.

GarthB Thu Dec 14, 2006 01:11am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
It's just that most of the Smitties I have encountered have coincedently worn beanie plate hats.

This will probably start something, but honest to God, the sign of a smitty around here is a hockey stye helmet.

For some reason, the higher level umpires locally eschew them, but the raw newbies and smitties love them.

As time goes by and the some of the newbies learn the craft and move up, this will change, I'm sure. But as of now, scratch a PU with a HSM and you'll find a BU with ball bags.

PFISTO Thu Dec 14, 2006 06:27am

Well after reading all these posts what I am going to do is make my own bags. They will look and feel just like the Honigs taper top bags but will have rounded bottoms with a small bellow on the bottom like the Carlucci bag which I think is a better idea. I agree that the zipper is not needed but I do like the idea of adding a slight elastic around the top but with the taper it may not be needed. Has anyone here ever lost a ball out of thier bag running down to 1st or 3rd????

kylejt Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:04am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
It's just that most of the Smitties I have encountered have coincedently worn beanie plate hats.

I just harken back to what Jimmy Dugan said about the umpire who was wearing a beanie at the time. That line alone will swear most off those goofy little caps.

And what's with all the LL cracks. Around here, in SoCal, the best dressed arbiters are LL guys. The hobos are the ones who work high school games.

piaa_ump Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:21am

my .02
 
I wear 2 standard ball bags for many of the reasons stated before me. I like the balanced look and the ability to keep lineup cards, and brush in one and rotate the gamers in the other.

whatever you do just make sure you wear the bags correctly...they go on your sides.....do not wear a ball bag as a fanny pack (too far back) or as a loin cloth (too far forward)......one guy in a local association wears his one ball bag so far forward, it looks like a navy loin cloth....


Stan

umpduck11 Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:04am

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Originally Posted by PFISTO
Has anyone here ever lost a ball out of thier bag running down to 1st or 3rd????

I haven't.

SanDiegoSteve Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:38am

Quote:

Originally Posted by PFISTO
Well after reading all these posts what I am going to do is make my own bags. They will look and feel just like the Honigs taper top bags but will have rounded bottoms with a small bellow on the bottom like the Carlucci bag which I think is a better idea. I agree that the zipper is not needed but I do like the idea of adding a slight elastic around the top but with the taper it may not be needed. Has anyone here ever lost a ball out of thier bag running down to 1st or 3rd????

Here are some prototypes you can pattern yours after. These are the latest rage in Korean baseball umpiring, from Mizuno:

http://www.mizuno.co.kr/baseball/up_file/2za-2611.gif

GarthB Thu Dec 14, 2006 03:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylejt
And what's with all the LL cracks. Around here, in SoCal, the best dressed arbiters are LL guys. The hobos are the ones who work high school games.

That hasn't been my experience. This is what the best dressed LL umpires look like around here.

http://images.inmagine.com/img/photo...pdgr045900.jpg

umpduck11 Thu Dec 14, 2006 03:49pm

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Originally Posted by GarthB
That hasn't been my experience. This is what the best dressed LL umpires look like around here.

Where's his raft ? :D

SanDiegoSteve Thu Dec 14, 2006 04:38pm

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Originally Posted by GarthB
That hasn't been my experience. This is what the best dressed LL umpires look like around here.

What's he doing, hitchhiking?

GarthB Thu Dec 14, 2006 05:04pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
What's he doing, hitchhiking?

It's either his "out" call, or a super-secret LL signal to his partner to brush off second base.

LomUmp Thu Dec 14, 2006 06:14pm

Hey all,

He looks more like the CR/BR umpires that I have seen, rather than the LL ones!

LomUmp:cool:

LLPA13UmpDan Thu Dec 14, 2006 07:49pm

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Originally Posted by GarthB
<sigh>

You can take the umpire out of Little League, but can you take the Little League out of the umpire?

no you cant

ozzy6900 Thu Dec 14, 2006 08:20pm

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Originally Posted by GarthB
That hasn't been my experience. This is what the best dressed LL umpires look like around here.

http://images.inmagine.com/img/photo...pdgr045900.jpg

Garth, how did you get a picture of Dan?

GarthB Thu Dec 14, 2006 08:35pm

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Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan
no you cant

Wow. Too much kool aid rots more than your teeth.

GarthB Fri Dec 15, 2006 01:43am

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Originally Posted by PWL
Oh, the things one thinks of when sitting around the teacher's lounge in a room filled with chain smokers........:rolleyes:

That's bulletin board material.....:p

Have a Happy Festivus for the Rest of Us..........:)

Smoking hasn't been permitted anywhere on school grounds in the state of Washington for many years.

I don't celebrate fesitvus or "the holidays". I celebrate Christmas, as un-PC as that may be.

LLPA13UmpDan Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:32am

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Originally Posted by ozzy6900
Garth, how did you get a picture of Dan?

Sorry ozzy, that cant be me. We switched to navy/light blue polo before i was even an umpire. And besides, i like to wear my shin guards UNDER my pants :D

waltjp Sat Dec 16, 2006 03:04pm

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Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan
Sorry ozzy, that cant be me. We switched to navy/light blue polo before i was even an umpire. And besides, i like to wear my shin guards UNDER my pants :D

Glad to hear you're wearing the shin guards under your pants. I do have to wonder about the black ball bags you wear with your blue shirts though. :confused:

kylejt Sat Dec 16, 2006 05:39pm

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Originally Posted by waltjp
Glad to hear you're wearing the shin guards under your pants. I do have to wonder about the black ball bags you wear with your blue shirts though. :confused:

Um, you wear black ball bags with everything. They match your shoes and belt. Ask your wife, she'll tell you about color coordination of accessories.

Colored bags are for high school umpires.


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