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socalblue1 Wed Dec 06, 2006 01:15am
Partner makes an obstruction call on R1 rounding 2B to 3B. Unless it's Type-A where BU is killing the play right right there, we have no way of knowing exactly what the final call will be.

Ball get's loose & runner goes home. He knows there was obstruction and just jogs in and is tagged out.

Now the crew needs to get together and decide to what extent R1 is going to be protected. Is it 3B or HP? Out or run?

So we DO make the call, then sort things out in these cases.

bob jenkins Wed Dec 06, 2006 08:22am
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Originally Posted by PWL
I don't know if anyone remembers this play from the AL playoff a few years back. Miguel Tejada of the A's was just reaching third when he was obstructed with by the Yankees third baseman. Instead of running hard all the way home, Tejada started running about half speed and pointing back at the obstruction. As I recall the PU gave the out signal as the tag was applied at the plate. The U3 made the obstruction call. Nobody seemed to get too worked up over that as the call was the correct call to make. However if the PU knew the runner was obstructed with, why was he making an out call?
It was Type B obstruction, and because Tejada jogged in the umpire judged that he would have been out even without the obstruction so the out call stood.

PWL Wed Dec 06, 2006 04:00pm
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
It was Type B obstruction, and because Tejada jogged in the umpire judged that he would have been out even without the obstruction so the out call stood.
My point exactly. Tejada should have continued to run. It just seems like everyone is getting worked up over one umpire making an out call, when the other makes the obstruction call. As you pointed out earlier, it's nothing that cannot be fixed. They nailed it in the World Series this year, also.

Dave Hensley Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:01pm
The PU correctly called Tejada out because he saw the obstruction and judged that Tejada was obstructed by a step and was out by 10. No award was necessary to nullify the obstruction - the out stood.

bob jenkins Thu Dec 07, 2006 08:38am
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Originally Posted by PWL
It just seems like everyone is getting worked up over one umpire making an out call, when the other makes the obstruction call. As you pointed out earlier, it's nothing that cannot be fixed. They nailed it in the World Series this year, also.
I don't think "everyone" is getting worked up about this. I'm not even sure "anyone" is gettign worked up about this. Bossman asked a fairly common question, and got the answers. Now it's time to close the thread because it's just turned into another p***ing contest between PWL and SDS.


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