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Old Wed Sep 06, 2006, 07:23am
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I'm begining to wonder about LLPA13UmpDan. I've concidered that he is a very inexperienced LL umpire but I just don't know!

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Old Wed Sep 06, 2006, 07:51am
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In Dan's first post he stated that this was his first year and he's 15 years old. Keep that in mind and give the kid a break.

His questions may seem amateurish to some, but that's exactly what he is.
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Old Wed Sep 06, 2006, 11:22am
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Okay, I found the first post and "waltjp" is right. He stated that he was new and 15 years old.

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Hey Guys...I was sent here by another member. My name is Dan, im 15. From Milton, Pa. I umpire in PA LL District 13. This is my first year of umpiring, and ive gotten allot of experience early. ...

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Sorry if I doubted you, LLPA13UmpDan but there have been way too many fakers around here lately. That's wy I dug up your 1st post so everyone could see it.
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Old Wed Sep 06, 2006, 01:11pm
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In Dan's first post he stated that this was his first year and he's 15 years old. Keep that in mind and give the kid a break.

His questions may seem amateurish to some, but that's exactly what he is.
True -- but there have also been experienced umpires masquerading as novice umpires. I'm not saying that's what Dan is, but the pattern fits. Dan can change the pattern if he is who he says he is.
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Old Wed Sep 06, 2006, 01:43pm
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True -- but there have also been experienced umpires masquerading as novice umpires. I'm not saying that's what Dan is, but the pattern fits. Dan can change the pattern if he is who he says he is.
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Old Wed Sep 06, 2006, 02:34pm
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To answer the original question; He has the Mizouno mask from Japan and it does not come with a throat protector so it was modified. I know this because I have a friend that has one and that is what he has done with his mask. BTW the mask is the lightest mask I have ever picked up, and you can only get them from Japan.

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Old Wed Sep 06, 2006, 04:30pm
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http://www.rakuten.co.jp/bbtown/5430...742473/742035/


The company is called BBTown. In Japan, they use the term "Judgement equipment" The mask runs about $150.00 USD + shipping[big$$]. Mizuno also just came out with the same mask, but with a throat guard.

http://www.rakuten.co.jp/bbtown/5430...742473/742036/

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Old Wed Sep 06, 2006, 10:21pm
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http://www.rakuten.co.jp/bbtown/5430...742473/742035/


The company is called BBTown. In Japan, they use the term "Judgement equipment" The mask runs about $150.00 USD + shipping[big$$]. Mizuno also just came out with the same mask, but with a throat guard.

http://www.rakuten.co.jp/bbtown/5430...742473/742036/

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Old Wed Sep 06, 2006, 02:39pm
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What i was insinuating was what type is it? Ive never seen one of those. So what if i do Little League. Im in this game for the love of the game, not for the money.
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Old Wed Sep 06, 2006, 03:19pm
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Dan,

There's nothing wrong with doing this for 'love of the game' but it's also nice to make a few bucks while doing something you enjoy. There are several here that work LL baseball, me included. I don't know of anyone who umps LL exclusively.

If you're happy doing LL only, fine. Be the best you can be. But you'll probably find that you'll learn a lot more and work with better umpires when you work games outside of LL. That's not a knock on LL. That's just the way it is.
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Old Wed Sep 06, 2006, 07:26pm
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Dan,

There's nothing wrong with doing this for 'love of the game' but it's also nice to make a few bucks while doing something you enjoy. There are several here that work LL baseball, me included. I don't know of anyone who umps LL exclusively.

If you're happy doing LL only, fine. Be the best you can be. But you'll probably find that you'll learn a lot more and work with better umpires when you work games outside of LL. That's not a knock on LL. That's just the way it is.
Not that I'm a very frequent poster, but in thirteen years of umpiring, I have only worked LL games. FWIW.

I will note that many of the best umpires I work with also do a fair amount of non-LL umpiring, but I'm not sure how strong a trend that is.
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Old Wed Sep 06, 2006, 09:31pm
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No Garth, I try to be good and do my best. I already have rule books. Why mock on other officials becasue "We do lower level games" Heck, theres some LL umpires out there that if they would have gone pro, they would be the instuctors, not instuctees. And LilLeaguer, its not that stong of a trend. Just beause you do ASA, high school, college, or what ever level, does NOT make you a better umpire. Some people like to think that, but it is not true.
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Old Wed Sep 06, 2006, 10:39pm
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Heck, theres some LL umpires out there that if they would have gone pro, they would be the instuctors, not instuctees.
What do you mean my "if they would have gone pro"? Are you saying these LL umpires were offered pro jobs but turned them down because they only work because of their love of the game? And I would hope that a pro umpire would be able to instruct at some LL clinic in Penn.

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And LilLeaguer, its not that stong of a trend. Just beause you do ASA, high school, college, or what ever level, does NOT make you a better umpire. Some people like to think that, but it is not true.
Stop kidding yourself. One can only become so good while working only 12 year old games. I'm sorry if you feel otherwise, but that is a fact.
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Old Wed Sep 06, 2006, 10:44pm
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Stop kidding yourself. One can only become so good while working only 12 year old games. I'm sorry if you feel otherwise, but that is a fact.
When I first started out (as all the top dawgs in our association and area did) a lot of us did the little guys (11, 12 year olds, ect.) In my opinion and experiences Luke is right (as he usually is). There is NO comparison between some Little League game and a "good" game of shaving age players.

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Old Wed Sep 06, 2006, 10:58pm
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No Garth, I try to be good and do my best. I already have rule books. Why mock on other officials becasue "We do lower level games" Heck, theres some LL umpires out there that if they would have gone pro, they would be the instuctors, not instuctees. And LilLeaguer, its not that stong of a trend. Just beause you do ASA, high school, college, or what ever level, does NOT make you a better umpire. Some people like to think that, but it is not true.
1. I did not mock LL umpires. I tried to make the point that if you love doing LL then you owe it to yourself and LL to become the best umpire you can.

2. My experience is that if one is good enough to do something, they usually do. Coulda woulda shoulda is meaningless.

3. No one will become the best umpire they can be by working nothing but LL. That's a fact.

4. Like it or not, experience will make one a better umpire.
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