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Old Wed Aug 23, 2006, 09:57pm
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You are correct. In OBR the rule is:

5.09 The ball becomes dead and runners advance one base, or return to their bases, without liability to be put out, when --
(e) A foul ball is not caught; runners return. The umpire shall not put the ball in play until all runners have retouched their bases;
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Old Wed Aug 23, 2006, 10:45pm
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You are correct. In OBR the rule is:

5.09 The ball becomes dead and runners advance one base, or return to their bases, without liability to be put out, when --
(e) A foul ball is not caught; runners return. The umpire shall not put the ball in play until all runners have retouched their bases;
However, in actual application, professional umpires routinely put the ball in play before runners actually retouch. This is common and accepted. The runners should at least be in "close vicinitY" to the base. So let's not be OOO on this.
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Old Wed Aug 23, 2006, 10:57pm
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Dave,

ctblu40 has provided you with the text of the appropriate (OBR) rule.

DG has provided you with a description of how the rule is properly applied. (In case you're wondering, "close vicinity" is solely a matter of the umpire's judgment.)

I am curious as to what prompted your question. Do tell.

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Old Thu Aug 24, 2006, 08:02am
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However, in actual application, professional umpires routinely put the ball in play before runners actually retouch. This is common and accepted. The runners should at least be in "close vicinitY" to the base. So let's not be OOO on this.
Agreed... I never require or even check to make sure the runners actually return to their bases. Just wanted everyone to know that...
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Old Wed Aug 23, 2006, 11:16pm
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You are correct. In OBR the rule is:

5.09 The ball becomes dead and runners advance one base, or return to their bases, without liability to be put out, when --
(e) A foul ball is not caught; runners return. The umpire shall not put the ball in play until all runners have retouched their bases;
1) Note the absence of a penalty.

2) Note who has the responsibility to wait, therefore who is "at fault", if play is restarted before the retouch.

In reality, the 89 foot lead problem is satisfactorily fixed if the runners return to their normal lead off position and umpires handle it accordingly.
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