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EAGLE EYE Sun Aug 27, 2006 04:14pm

Llws Pp
 
Game rescheduled Monday 8 P.M.

bob jenkins Sun Aug 27, 2006 07:12pm

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Originally Posted by EAGLE EYE
Game rescheduled Monday 8 P.M.


Crap. I was hoping it would be over.

TussAgee11 Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:32am

One thing that the LLWS is good for is it really makes me feel like I am the best umpiring in the world, when watching those guys.

Good for my moral and confidence.

It makes the games unbearable to watch, IMO.

Seeing U3 curl in one time with R1 trying to advance to 3rd on a single made me cringe, and literally turn off the TV.

SanDiegoSteve Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:48am

Well, let's all try to ignore the umpires (or don't notice them as much) tomorrow night, and just sit back and enjoy the game. The two fastest pitchers in the Series. Oughta be fun!

David B Mon Aug 28, 2006 09:08am

That's funny!
 
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
Crap. I was hoping it would be over.

That's good Bob. I was thinking the same thing.

But my son told me already today what we would be doing tonight ... (g)
For some reason though he's pulling for Japan.

Thansk
David

TwoBits Mon Aug 28, 2006 04:41pm

Actually, Little League has recently rescheduled the game for 5:00.

SanDiegoSteve Mon Aug 28, 2006 05:32pm

5:00? Is that Pacific Time? Which would be 8:00 EST right? The game isn't on here yet.

left coast Mon Aug 28, 2006 05:36pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
5:00? Is that Pacific Time? Which would be 8:00 EST right? The game isn't on here yet.

CHECK ESPN 2

UmpJM Mon Aug 28, 2006 05:42pm

Steve,

5:00 Eastern Time. They're supposed to show a replay at 8:00 Eastern.

JM

SanDiegoSteve Mon Aug 28, 2006 05:46pm

Yeah, great. I was busy with NFL fantasy draft today and never heard of the change. Wow, top of the sixth already. I guess if I'm really into it now, I can watch the replay.:mad:

LMan Mon Aug 28, 2006 09:17pm

A pretty good game. PU had a much tighter zone that caught both pitchers off guard to start with, but they adjusted. Good job by PU overall!

tmp44 Mon Aug 28, 2006 09:35pm

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Originally Posted by LMan
A pretty good game. PU had a much tighter zone that caught both pitchers off guard to start with, but they adjusted. Good job by PU overall!

His strike mechanic drove me nuts though.....

UmpJM Mon Aug 28, 2006 09:38pm

Final thoughts....
 
Gentlemen,

In terms of the umpiring in the final...

In a different universe than the "International" semifinal the other night. I had the impression on a few pitches early in the game that he was "squeezing" the pitchers - especially on the "low" ones. Overall, solid job and it made for a much better game.

Good no-call on the play at the plate which may have been obstruction. I thought 1BLE would have been a better angle, but I don't think it would have made any difference.

The U1's comment to the PU when he "got help" on the Georgia manager's appeal on a possible HBP (three pitches after the Georgia HR) cracked me up. I thought the Georgia Mgr. was a little out of line even asking & was also a bit of a jerk about how reluctantly he dropped it after the PU was gracious enough to check with his partner.

Other random thoughts...

I always knew Brent Musberger was a pompous a$$ - I can only hope they don't invite him back, because that environment just magnifies it.

Orel Hershiser doesn't say a lot, and I hope they DO invite him back.

The look on the kid's face who hit the home run for Georgia - priceless.

The pudgy kid for Georgia who had all the clutch hits and played solid defense - never judge a book by it's cover.

The Georgia pitcher reminding his teammates to go shake hands with the Japanese kids in the midst of their celebration - leadership and sportsmanship.

Best post on the subject:

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Originally Posted by Dave Hensley
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The PU's strikezone was, in a word, atrocious, and it matters little that it was the same for both teams. It trampled on the game and changed the entire character of the matchups. It was, in one more word, inexcusable.

Now, why did this guy, who had worked two previous TV plates and, while generous, had given no indication that he was in jeopardy of going berserk with his strikezone, all of a sudden just go insane with his calls?

I think there are two basic reasons. The first is I think the Mexican catcher "psyched" him into questioning his own perception of where the limits of the outside corner were, by giving him a first class psych-out job in the top of the 1st inning. Little Mini-Pudge would whirl around and give a "YGTBSM" look on pitches that were a foot off the plate, and for whatever reason, PU folded like a cheap suit, and started calling the pitches strikes. Perhaps an example of "calling the expected zone" gone horribly, horribly wrong, by letting one person - mini-Pudge - define the expected zone.

The second problem is something Garth Benham mentioned on another board - the umpire may have been "tunneling" the pitches, not moving his eyes with the pitch all the way to the mitt. He stopped seeing the pitch about 6 feet in front of the plate, and made his decision there. By the time the catcher was stabbing the pitch with a desperate lunge a foot and a half wide of the plate, PU's decision was long made.

Both of these phenomena combined to produce what I have to admit was one of the worst plate performances in a televised Little League game in my memory. I feel sorry for the guy because I think his prior plate games are surely more representative of his standard game, than the nightmare that was last night. At this point, all we can do is analyze it and try to figure out what went wrong, which is the purpose of my post here.

This was in reference to the Japan/Mexico game. It wasn't posted on this board, but I thought it the best post I read on the whole LLWS.

Funniest post:

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
Crap. I was hoping it would be over.

(In response to the final being rescheduled to Monday.)

Can't say why exactly, but this cracked me up when I saw it. Bob, you owe me a new monitor.

'Til next year.

Congratulations to the young baseball players from Georgia. They looked pretty "real" to me.

JM

SanDiegoSteve Mon Aug 28, 2006 09:39pm

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Originally Posted by tmp44
His strike mechanic drove me nuts though.....

Me too. I kept thinking he would knock himself out one of these days.

He called a couple of "doozies" strikes which were not even close, but it was a much better zone overall than that Japan/Mexico dude.

tmp44 Mon Aug 28, 2006 09:47pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
Me too. I kept thinking he would knock himself out one of these days.

He called a couple of "doozies" strikes which were not even close, but it was a much better zone overall than that Japan/Mexico dude.

He did a previous game on the dish...I only remember because of his mechanics and how they bothered me the first game I saw him. I know ppl on here have said that Regional Final guys don't get the LLWS, but I could have swore that he did a Regional....if not I guess it was a pool round game that I saw him work...

Oh, and he definitely had some "doozies..."


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