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Old Wed Aug 16, 2006, 09:47am
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Did anyone see the Red Sox Tigers game last night?

I believe it was R1, R3, 1 out, flair batted down the right field line. Bruce Froemming (U1) goes out to rule fair foul. Fair ball dropped by right fielder, who gathers the ball and throw behind BR who rounded first base, U1 calls BR out on the tag..... UIC (Paul Emmel) signals safe.

Froemmings call stood.

I don't believe I've ever seen this in an MLB game. Even they blow coverages once in a while!
I would think this belongs to the PU. With the ball falling, he catches the plate touch over his shoulder.
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Old Wed Aug 16, 2006, 09:53am
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I thought that in this sitch, U2 has all touches and plays at first and second and UIC stays home for all plays there. If the ball were caught (it should've been, it was fair because Peňa touched it over fair territory), R3 will possibly tag and attempt to score.

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Old Wed Aug 16, 2006, 10:15am
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I thought that in this sitch, U2 has all touches and plays at first and second and UIC stays home for all plays there. If the ball were caught (it should've been, it was fair because Pe?a touched it over fair territory), R3 will possibly tag and attempt to score.
Once it falls, though.....

It's a toughie cause, you're right, the plate umpire doesn't really have a whole lot of time to get up to make this call.

U2 is expecting a catch, so he may have a lousy angle on it and not have time to slide over. Although, with R1 and R3 he'd have a tag at first. Once it fell, though, he was probably thinking about the force at second.

Sometimes an unexpected result leaves a hole in the coverages, I guess.
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Old Wed Aug 16, 2006, 09:54am
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bruce was only out a step or two,paul was next to the plate,i still think bruce had the right call,but i agree in it looked weird.Paul had to stay home for the runner coming in,so really U2 should have come over.Either way,in the end the right call was made.
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Old Wed Aug 16, 2006, 10:01am
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bruce was only out a step or two,paul was next to the plate,i still think bruce had the right call,but i agree in it looked weird.Paul had to stay home for the runner coming in,so really U2 should have come over.Either way,in the end the right call was made.
I agree, the right call was made. My point was that it's not often you see these guys miss a rotation or mess up a mechanic.

Something like this makes me feel better about my own screw ups!
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Old Wed Aug 16, 2006, 11:46am
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Proper mechanic for a 4-man system in this case is for U2 to slide over, ESPECIALLY with runners on base. UIC has to stay home for touches and plays there. U2 has plays at first AND second.

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