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Lawrence.Dorsey Sun Aug 13, 2006 04:11pm

I'd have to say that I am in the camp that says you can get a check swing in C. But, I can't think of a handful of times I've called it from there. It is isn't that I am chicken, it's just that I have to be sure I thought he made an attempt to go. My opinion is that HS Varsity players, and below, don't generate near the amount of bat speed that NCAA and players above create. Therefore, it's easier for them to check their swing than someone who commits a great deal of force to a swing prior to releasing the bat through the hitting zone. My rule of thumb from C (or b) is this, and admittly could be archaic, but if I read the trademark on the bat, then he went. I've actually had a couple that I would have called that never were appealed to me.

Lawrence

SanDiegoSteve Sun Aug 13, 2006 04:18pm

No time for a lengthy reply, I have a wedding to attend. I'm solidly with the big dogs on this one. Woof! Sorry Carl, B or C just fine with me. It is the intent we are judging, and you can see that from just about anywhere.

ctblu40 Sun Aug 13, 2006 06:43pm

I have to also agree with the big dogs here, I can tell if the batter made an attempt to hit a pitch from B or C. The problem I think many have is that they're relying on guidlines such as bat crossing the plate, turning the wrists, and others to make this call. It's simple, if I think he offered-->he did!

Any argument you get on this type of call should be shortlived once you tell skip that he is not to argue balls and strikes anymore.

BTW- The PBUC mechanic on this has changed. In a 3 man crew, PU is to ask for help with the umpire stationed on the line. This change was implemented either last season or the season before.

Rich Sun Aug 13, 2006 08:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by PWL
If I'm working with a base ump with something on the ball and I know the batter DIDN'T go, a simple "NO, HE DIDN'T GO DID HE?" Signal safe, satisfies the barking dogs and makes me happy. If he gives the strike, they bark at my partner. Win, win situation.

Sounds like the mid-80s old-timer and his secret signals. No thanks.

Again, all that's important is intent. I won't hesitate to ring one up from the middle and I will ALWAYS ask my partner, regardless of the rule set. If he rings it up, it's another strike. We like strikes.

I'm surprised at Carl -- his mechanics for the 21st century are quite forward-thinking and his thinking on this issue is stuck somewhere in the seventies.

LMan Tue Aug 15, 2006 08:47am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser
Again, all that's important is intent. I won't hesitate to ring one up from the middle and I will ALWAYS ask my partner, regardless of the rule set. If he rings it up, it's another strike. We like strikes.

I can't imagine why any PU would not want another strike, plus the 'burden' is now on the BU to do it. As a PU, what's not to like? :D


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