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Old Thu Aug 03, 2006, 01:55pm
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I've found that when I use the knee for shaving players, I'm too low, or I'm stretching to be at the right place. But on the occasion that I'm working lower levels (i.e. shorter players) or I have an inordinately short older player, I like working the knee.
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Old Thu Aug 03, 2006, 01:59pm
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for small batters...i sometimes will get on one knee. if i dont, I'll be squatting like that catcher.
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Old Thu Aug 03, 2006, 02:24pm
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For smaller games (LL, Ripken, etc) I use the knee. Only problem is my knees get filthy and torn up easily. Occasionally I use it in Babe Ruth games....if you don't get lazy, it's not that bad getting up to be in position in a 2-man.

In regards to the shades behind the plate, I do it for any game that starts before 6 PM. I haven't had any problems other than wiping sweat off my brow. Plus, it allows me to look into the dugout if I hear anything funny without anyone knowing and responding.
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Old Thu Aug 03, 2006, 02:34pm
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I used the "one knee" stance when I first started out. As I moved up and started doing higher level games, I switched to the box stance. My reason was simply self preservation. Too many bruised thighs to continue the 1-knee.

As for glasses, I use them when needed. Sunny, clear sky days. One tip I would offer is, if you're wearing them and you need to discuss something with a manager, remove them for the conversation.
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Old Thu Aug 03, 2006, 02:58pm
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As for glasses, I use them when needed. Sunny, clear sky days. One tip I would offer is, if you're wearing them and you need to discuss something with a manager, remove them for the conversation.
Why ? They don't take them off to talk to us. And I don't see a problem with either person leaving sunglasses on. I do take my helmet off though.
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Old Thu Aug 03, 2006, 03:14pm
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Why ? They don't take them off to talk to us. And I don't see a problem with either person leaving sunglasses on. I do take my helmet off though.
IMO, you should remove the glasses for 2 reasons:
1) Let the coach see your eyes so that he know's he has your undivided attention when he's talking to you.
2) Let the coach see your eyes when you're starting to get pi$$ed so that he can read your non-verbal communication.
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Old Thu Aug 03, 2006, 04:24pm
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If you need glasses

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IMO, you should remove the glasses for 2 reasons:
1) Let the coach see your eyes so that he know's he has your undivided attention when he's talking to you.
2) Let the coach see your eyes when you're starting to get pi$$ed so that he can read your non-verbal communication.
I wear prescription glasses and sunglasses. If I removed my sunglasses to talk to a coach, he'd read my non-verbal communication that he's blurry and indistinct. I suppose I should look for the appropriate occasion.

Coach: But the hands are part of the bat.
LL (removing sunglasses): Are you sure of that?

Even though both glasses have the same prescription, changing them gives me a moment of awkward vision (due to the different fit, I think), so I try to stay with the same pair for the whole game. Behind the plate, I tend to wear them less than I do in the field, but we have a couple of local fields were PU faces the setting sun.
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Old Thu Aug 03, 2006, 09:07pm
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Why ? They don't take them off to talk to us. And I don't see a problem with either person leaving sunglasses on. I do take my helmet off though.
ive always been told to take my sunglasses off when addressing coaches/players, especially at the plate conference.
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Old Thu Aug 03, 2006, 09:12pm
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I never wear sunglasses. I hate them. Thats what a hat brim and a mask sunshield are for. They obstruct my view.
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Old Thu Aug 03, 2006, 08:41pm
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One tip I would offer is, if you're wearing them and you need to discuss something with a manager, remove them for the conversation.
Tony LaRussa does...every time he comes out, the glasses go off...just for the record...
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Old Thu Aug 03, 2006, 03:12pm
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Plus, it allows me to look into the dugout if I hear anything funny without anyone knowing and responding.
What? They cant see you turning your head?
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Old Thu Aug 03, 2006, 06:55pm
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What? They cant see you turning your head?
Not if I cock my head like I'm looking past them into the stands, parking lot, etc.
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Old Thu Aug 03, 2006, 07:00pm
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Not if I cock my head like I'm looking past them into the stands, parking lot, etc.
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Old Thu Aug 03, 2006, 02:27pm
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I did a High School summer league tournament last month, in which I had 4 games on one day...and three on the plate. (Don't ask!).

By game four (my last plate game), I was zonked. So I worked the knee. I'm still young enough ( ) that I was able to get up and out from behind the plate without a problem (for instance with the base umpire going out with no runners on base).

As for the strike zone: I have worked the scissors in every other game I've umpired for the last 5 years. To me, personally, the pitches did look quite a bit different than in the scissors. I found myself calling more high strikes.

It was a very, very long day for the teams (they were ready to go home, too), plus I have a very good reputation with both coaches, so my new higher strike zone caused no problems. They wanted strikes! In fact one of the coaches teased me the next week accusing me of thinking I was so good that I could now work the knee like a MLBer. I laughed and said that I was just too tired to keep standing for another 7 innings.
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