Out or no out
 

Fed rules.
Ball is hit to F3, ball is held securely in his hand, F3 touches 1st base with his glove before the runner reaches 1st base. Is the runner out or safe ?

Out.......

ILBlue,

Out. This is a legal tag of the base (assuming the glove is being properly worn, of course), which is all that is required.

JM

Does anyone know the Fed rule on this ? I can't seem to find it.
Thanks.

This must be "topic of the month" :D

See 8-4-1f

Let's look at this another way. If it is legal for F3 to hold the ball in his glove and touch the base with his foot, why would it not be legal for F3 to hold the ball in his hand and touch the base with his glove?

I thought this was an out, but another ump insisted the runner was safe.
Thanks

:rolleyes:

Safe?
 

That's funny, and it would be nice to hear his justification of how he was safe. Umpiring can be so difficult sometimes ... (g)

Thanks
David

"Is the hand part of the glove?"

He probally confused tagging a base and tagging a runner:confused:

"A TAG is the action of a fielder in touching a base with his body while holding the ball securely and firmly in his hand or glove..."

Unless the glove is a part of his body, something in casebooks or another rule must contradict this.

I'm in agreement that he's out, but would just like to see a ruling.

This isn't a TAG of a runner, it's a TOUCH of a base. Completely different.

FED 8-4-2j: 'Any runner is out when he fails to reach the next base before a fielder either tags the runner out or holds the ball while touching such base..."

FED 2-24-1: "A force-out is a putout.......or is put out by a fielder who holds the ball while touching the base toward which the force runner is advancing...


Doesn't matter where the ball is as long as it is legally held; then any part of the body that touches the base during/after such a legal catch/hold completes the force.

Is his shoe part of his foot???