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[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by GarthB

I patronize Honigs for some stuff, mostly pants and pull overs, but I find CK shirts to be far superior to Honigs. Lester's Upstate Sports has fair prices and fair shipping charges. His cutomer service ranks right up there with Honigs.

I love Cliff Keen shirts as well, and the best source I have found for those is Gerry Davis, as he does not charge extra for larger sizes, and he carries the MLB Polo Blue with Black Trim, which is one of my colors.

Lester's has great service, and Dave there told me exactly when my new V-Sport protector would arrive, and he was right!

BTL is very caring, and went out of their way to try to locate a backordered All-Star CPU28PRO protector I wanted, but were unable to find due to factory backorder.

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

I love Cliff Keen shirts as well, and the best source I have found for those is Gerry Davis, as he does not charge extra for larger sizes, and he carries the MLB Polo Blue with Black Trim, which is one of my colors.

Lester's has great service, and Dave there told me exactly when my new V-Sport protector would arrive, and he was right!

BTL is very caring, and went out of their way to try to locate a backordered All-Star CPU28PRO protector I wanted, but were unable to find due to factory backorder.

My complaint about the Gerry Davis "polo blue" shirts is that they are a different shade of blue than the Honig's MLB Polo Blue replicas and that the trim is not, in fact, the same. I do find the CK shirts, BTW, to be thicker and heavier than the Honig's ones, even though I own both types in black.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by UMP25

My complaint about the Gerry Davis "polo blue" shirts is that they are a different shade of blue than the Honig's MLB Polo Blue replicas and that the trim is not, in fact, the same. I do find the CK shirts, BTW, to be thicker and heavier than the Honig's ones, even though I own both types in black.

Okay, I'm holding my Honig's catalog up next to my CK MLB Lt. Blue w/Black trim shirt. They appear to be identical in trim. Black, followed by White, Lt. Blue, White (as 3 in 1 striping), then Black again. This is exactly the same for sleeve and collar. What's the difference?

Anyway the CK is the shirt of choice around here, so the Lt. Blue, or Polo Blue, or whatever is just great. I have even had to work 3 man with one guy with Lt. Blue w/Navy and White trim, and one with Red/White/Blue so-called "collegiate" trim. I say "so-called" because I just saw the MLB Polo Blue in the Super Regionals.

[tjones1]

I know the Official's Choice is bashed a lot over in the Basketball forum due to poor service and/or high shipping rates. I have had the high shipping rates and obviously didn't care for them.

I was wondering if anyone has tried their new baseball shirts. I believe they offer black, navy, powder w/ navy and white, and powder w/ black (MLB) made from their Micro-Softer material. I saw one of them being used at a Regional game I did this season, however forgot to ask for feedback. Is anyone using these shirts?

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Okay, I'm holding my Honig's catalog up next to my CK MLB Lt. Blue w/Black trim shirt. They appear to be identical in trim. Black, followed by White, Lt. Blue, White (as 3 in 1 striping), then Black again. This is exactly the same for sleeve and collar. What's the difference?

Anyway the CK is the shirt of choice around here, so the Lt. Blue, or Polo Blue, or whatever is just great. I have even had to work 3 man with one guy with Lt. Blue w/Navy and White trim, and one with Red/White/Blue so-called "collegiate" trim. I say "so-called" because I just saw the MLB Polo Blue in the Super Regionals.

Please tell me you don't compare colors in a printed catalog! Egads!!! If you think I'm joking, take a look at the GD pants in the GD catalog. Do you really think they look that way, with that eerie sort of olive hue, in real life? They don't. Pictures on the Internet and on printed catalog stock don't always illustrate an accurate representation.

I based my statement above after seeing a guy with the GD polo blue and putting it next to one of my Honig's polo blues. There IS a difference.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by UMP25

Please tell me you don't compare colors in a printed catalog! Egads!!! If you think I'm joking, take a look at the GD pants in the GD catalog. Do you really think they look that way, with that eerie sort of olive hue, in real life? They don't. Pictures on the Internet and on printed catalog stock don't always illustrate an accurate representation.

I based my statement above after seeing a guy with the GD polo blue and putting it next to one of my Honig's polo blues. There IS a difference.

Okay, there's a difference. So? I like the Cliff Keen and you like the Honig's. The Cliff Keen match up splendidly with the MLB umpires I see on HDTV, so what the hell is the problem? You make it sound like the difference is critical, and it is not. How else was I supposed to compare my paid for shirts to shirts neither I, nor anyone I know owns?

Methinks thou art using Old English. Art thou Cyrano DeBergerac? Perchance a musketeer? Gadzuks and zounds!

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Okay, there's a difference. So? I like the Cliff Keen and you like the Honig's. The Cliff Keen match up splendidly with the MLB umpires I see on HDTV, so what the hell is the problem? You make it sound like the difference is critical, and it is not. How else was I supposed to compare my paid for shirts to shirts neither I, nor anyone I know owns?

Methinks thou art using Old English. Art thou Cyrano DeBergerac? Perchance a musketeer? Gadzuks and zounds!

Methinks thou dost protest too much. I'm not saying the CK ones are terrible or unacceptable. If Davis had come out with these shirts the same time Honig's did, we might have gone with them, but because Honig's had them first--two years earlier--our association went with them and decided to stick with them. We didn't want to mix two different shirts, even if the difference was a slightly different shade of color and slightly different trim.

And comparing stuff to HDTV images now? Tsk, tsk.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

. I have even had to work 3 man with one guy with Lt. Blue w/Navy and White trim, and one with Red/White/Blue so-called "collegiate" trim. I say "so-called" because I just saw the MLB Polo Blue in the Super Regionals.

Black and the PoloBlue w/ balck trim are the two colors for NCAA post-season play.

It's in one of the "Instructions to Umpires" (or similar) manuals.

[UMP25]

No doubt because of the NCAA's relationship with Honig's. Just a guess.

[CJN]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Black and the PoloBlue w/ balck trim are the two colors for NCAA post-season play.

It's in one of the "Instructions to Umpires" (or similar) manuals.

They were wearing cream for the Georgia Tech v. Clemson game yesterday at the CWS.

[LomUmp]

Hey all,

All I have to say about -POS is this....

2 requests and 4 months later, I finally received my CATALOG! By then, I already had my gear bought and paid for through elsewhere.

LomUmp

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Black and the PoloBlue w/ balck trim are the two colors for NCAA post-season play.

It's in one of the "Instructions to Umpires" (or similar) manuals.

Then how come I see so many crews in the CWS wearing Cream?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Then how come I see so many crews in the CWS wearing Cream?

Don't know.

This is from the NCAA 2006 Div. I Instructions to Umpires (it looks better in the proper format):

10.4 - Uniforms / Equipment
NCAA umpires should take pride in their appearance. Uniforms and hats shall be kept clean, pressed and in first-class
condition. Uniforms will be worn only in the dressing room and on the field. Umpires may not sit in the stands or
enter public areas of the stadium while in uniform.
Each umpire is responsible for his own equipment and uniform. The NCAA will provide one sized NCAA hat to each
regional umpire. Please be sure to fax Honig’s immediately to provide them with your hat size. The hats for the entire
crew will be sent to the host institution and delivered to you upon arrival. The standard uniform options are as
follows:
• Short or long sleeve black pullover shirt with white tipping on collar and sleeve cuff. (reference Honig’s
style HMLS-B, HMLLS-B)
o Black or white T-shirt or mock turtleneck may be worn underneath the black shirt. (All members
of the crew must wear the same color on the bases)
• Short sleeve polo blue pullover style shirt with black and white tipping on the collar and sleeve cuff.
(reference Honig’s style HMLS-LB)
o Black or polo blue T-shirt or mock turtleneck may be worn underneath the polo blue shirt.
o Shiny or dazzle cloth versions are not acceptable.
o All shirts must have the “NCAA” letters embroderied on the left breast pocket
• Black nylon pullover jacket with white shoulder trim and “NCAA” lettering on the left chest. (reference
Honig’s style K-17-B)
o Black, polo blue or white T-shirt, mock turtleneck or turtleneck worn underneath.
• Black blazer.
• Gray pants.
• Black ball bags.
• Black socks.
• Black shoes (white stripes are permitted).
• Black belt.
• Black gloves.
• Black sized hat (each regional umpire will receive one hat)
No other variations are allowed and no conference or association patches are allowed. No uniform numbers will be
worn in regional or super regional tournaments. All base umpires will dress in the same uniform top; the plate umpire
may dress in the uniform top of his choice. However, if all umpires are wearing shirts they must all be the same color.
It is not acceptable to wear a short sleeve shirt on the plate with a long sleeve shirt underneath. No visible
jewelry (excluding wedding bands and medical alert bracelets) or watches of any kind are to be worn on the field during
any NCAA tournament game.
It is acceptable for umpires to wear athletic style sunglasses on the field if the conditions warrant. It is recommended
that umpires carry the glasses onto the field and during the pre-game conference and put them on once they reach their
respective positions.

Then, there's this:

College World Series Umpires
The NCAA will provide sized NCAA hats, shirts, undershirts, and trousers.

so maybe the other colors were provided.

[UMP25]

Perhaps the ice cream vendors had extra cream shirts that they lent to the umpires. God, I really hate that color!