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PAT THE REF Sat May 20, 2006 08:42pm

NFHS Questions/Help
 
Hey Everyone,

I have a few questions and am seeking some advice from my fellow "brothers in blue". :)

<u>Rule Questions:</u>
(all rule ref. regard only NFHS rules) (I don't have my rule books with me)
1) If a batted ball gets caught within an infielder's shirt, is it a dead ball? Live? Awards?
2) Same question, but with a thrown ball. *(Also, I believe in fed ball that a thrown ball in the shirt is not possession)
3) If a ball gets lodged inside a fielders glove, can he throw it to make a play? (I know it is legal in MLB but I was unsure in Fed)
4) If you eject a batter while still at bat, does that constitute an out as well? (erase the count, and a new batter) (I would believe so)
<u>Advice Needed About Umpire Academy:</u>
I am still in college finishing up a dual major in Criminal Justice/Psychology. Currently I was strongly considering going to Jim Evans for the winter. Now with the strike, *(not saying I would be that good) I don’t know if it is the best idea. I know it would be a great experience but I am still undecided… Any tips?

irefky Sat May 20, 2006 09:39pm

1. dead, 2 bases
2. same
3. no and if he does should be ruled detached equipment, 3 bases
4. no it is not an out, sub would enter and take the count at time of ejection

As far as a camp, it depends on where you want to call. If you are going to start out in high school, I would give it some time. Some state organizations may have their own and would take that approach.

good luck

PAT THE REF Sat May 20, 2006 10:28pm

I do high school now. Eventually I want to do college and then move up...

DG Sat May 20, 2006 10:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by irefky
3. no and if he does should be ruled detached equipment, 3 bases

Detached gear occurs if a fielder deliberately contacts a fair batted ball, thrown ball, or pitched ball by throwing his glove, cap, or mask or by using his cap, mask, or clothing like a glove. None of the above happened when a ball becomes lodged in a glove. It is simply a lodged ball, 2 bases from TOP.

radwaste50 Mon May 22, 2006 11:28am

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAT THE REF
I do high school now. Eventually I want to do college and then move up...

If you have the time and the money I would suggest going to the camp. If you want to work pro ball its a requirement (avoiding strike talk). And this is easier when you are young and have fewer responsibilities......ahhhhhh memories of youth (SITKOM)

Several friends have done this and it provides a good foundation even if you never work the pro's. Good Luck.

piaa_ump Mon May 22, 2006 11:45am

my.02
 
Go to umpire school now......there will never be a better time to go than now....

At this time in your life you are probably:

A. In the best shape of your life....
B. Still in a learning mode (those of us who are doing continuing education can tell you how difficult it is to get back into the learning/study frame of mind.)
C. Relatively unencumbered by life...(Wife, Kids, Jobs)
D. In the demographic that PBUC prefers......(age)

Education is the one thing that no one can take from you....you will be able to take the eperience with you throughout your umpiring career, no matter what level you aspire to...

Best of luck

Stan
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blueump Mon May 22, 2006 12:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAT THE REF
3) If a ball gets lodged inside a fielders glove, can he throw it to make a play? (I know it is legal in MLB but I was unsure in Fed)

Just be careful when you call it. According to the FED case book, a ball is not considered "lodged" until the player removes the glove. Case given is a pitcher who gets the ball "lodged" in his webbing, and tries unsuccessfuly to remove it 2 times, but finally gets it out the 3rd try. This according to the case book is not a "lodged" ball, the the play continue...don't kill it "immediately" as the rule book dictates.


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