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Old Fri May 12, 2006, 10:19pm
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When it comes to pitching and how the ball reacts this gym teacher has more or less credibility than Tom Seaver?
ok, while dan schatzeder is not tom seaver, he still has a ring and still knows whats up. can you read, or did you ignore the previous 20 times when i said that the man has a clue?

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Old Fri May 12, 2006, 10:58pm
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ok, while dan schatzeder is not tom seaver, he still has a ring and still knows whats up. can you read, or did you ignore the previous 20 times when i said that the man has a clue?
I'm sorry can you read?
The organist at Commisky has a ring.

Did Dan ever throw a 95 mph fastball that gave the optical illusion of rising?
Tom Seaver had a very long career doing so.
Funny thing is, after all of those years and many thousands of pitches his stupid brain never could figure out how much that fastball was supposed to drop and til the end he kept thinking it was actually rising.
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Old Fri May 12, 2006, 11:35pm
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I'm sorry can you read?
The organist at Commisky has a ring.
im sorry, did the organist win a game in the world series?

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Old Fri May 12, 2006, 11:45pm
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im sorry, did the organist win a game in the world series?

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No, but just like Dan she's never thrown a 95 mph fastball that looks like it's rising. And they both have the same amount of credibility in this argument. I'd say they have a lot in common.
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Old Fri May 12, 2006, 11:08pm
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Unhappy 8 Dozen MPH Vortex

Believe it or not, it doesn't take more than three pitches to become an effective major league pitcher. Anyone that thinks every young MLB pitcher commands a five pitch arsenal is looking for Tommy John surgery. There is one statement that accurately describes an exploding fastball which cannot be predicted; most go STRAIGHT, some tail away and some tail downward, and there are some of them that TAIL UP and some that tail INTO a hitter.

I would look at some of the bean ball footage of players who lean away from the pitch. Most are damn glad to see that ball RISING over them, instead of sinking into their shoulder. There are plenty of major league hitters that knew what John Rocker was bringing ot the table; low heat, more heat and high heat. There are many more who cleverly made careers off a very good fastballs. To say that one of those four-seam gripped pitches did not climb the ladder or RISE to the top occasionally is absolutely ridiculous.

There isn't one of you that can imagine the airflow around a 96 mph fastball that doesn't allow the same "knuckle" motion on its way to the plate. By the way, surface drag and gravitational influences decrease remarkably above 75 mph. Above 90 mph, objects tend to take on characteristics of FLIGHT. To categorical state that 100 mph objects cannot RISE in FLIGHT is simply ludicrous. Please, it is time you update your physics books.
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