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Tim C Sat May 06, 2006 08:04am

NFHS BR/RL Inter
 
National Federation of High School Rules

r2 and r3
Less than two outs

Batter performs a "safety squeeze" and bunts the ball up the first base line.

Ball is 6" FOUL and as F1 bends over to knock it "further foul" but has not touched the ball(i.e. touching ball foul so it won't roll back to fair ground) the BR runs into him.

You make the call!

Regards,

Rich Sat May 06, 2006 09:35am

Besides "FOUL," what call would anyone actually want to make?

bossman72 Sat May 06, 2006 12:19pm

If the ball had no chance of becoming fair, it's FOUL.

If it did have a chance to roll fair, it's INT.

NFump Sat May 06, 2006 03:48pm

Where did the ball end up?

DG Sat May 06, 2006 04:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossman72
If the ball had no chance of becoming fair, it's FOUL.

If it did have a chance to roll fair, it's INT.

This sounds correct, but I have found no FED rule or case book play on it. Closest thing is 8-4-1d, which is talking about contacting a batted ball in foul territory with the bat while it has a chance of becoming fair. The definition of Offensive Interference would make it illegal to contact a fielder making a play on a ball, but there is no play to be made on a foul ball. 10-2-3g might have to be applied here to declare the batter out, and all runners return to base at TOI.

I would have be CERTAIN that the ball had a chance to become fair, ie rolling towards fair with enough roll to make it there to make this call.

NFump Sat May 06, 2006 04:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DG
This sounds correct, but I have found no FED rule or case book play on it. Closest thing is 8-4-1d, which is talking about contacting a batted ball in foul territory with the bat while it has a chance of becoming fair. The definition of Offensive Interference would make it illegal to contact a fielder making a play on a ball, but there is no play to be made on a foul ball. 10-2-3g might have to be applied here to declare the batter out, and all runners return to base at TOI.

I would have be CERTAIN that the ball had a chance to become fair, ie rolling towards fair with enough roll to make it there to make this call.

That was my point DG about where did the ball end up. Like you said you'd better be ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN the ball will end up fair before you make an int call. As the sitch said the ball was never touched you'd have to wait until it stopped or was touched.

C'monBlue Sat May 06, 2006 04:17pm

I agree that it *makes sense* to look at where the ball ends up, but offensive interference is not a delayed dead ball situation. Theoretically, the call would need to be made immediately, so what happens after that point would be irrelevant. Having said that, I still don't have a better solution. Personally, I've probably got a foul ball. :)

Thom Coste Sat May 06, 2006 06:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser
Besides "FOUL," what call would anyone actually want to make?

How about ... Malicious contact. Out and out! Runners return. Eh?

SanDiegoSteve Sat May 06, 2006 08:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thom Coste
How about ... Malicious contact. Out and out! Runners return. Eh?

You have a very dark sense of humor, don't you?:cool:


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