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[GarthB]

Originally Posted by CoachJM

gobama,

This is NOT a balk. Why would you think it is?

JM

We're talking FED here coach. That's why.

FED Casebook 6.1.2

F1, while on the pitcher's plate in either the windup or set position, (a) ajusts his cap or (b) shakes off the signal with his glove....

RULINGIn (a) or (b), this is an illegal pitch or a Balk if there are runners on base.

[UmpJM]

Garth,

I had understood those proscriptions to apply only after the pitcher had assumed a legal pitching position. That is, hands together (Set or Windup) or moving both hands simultaneously (Windup). Is that not correct?

JM

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by CoachJM

Garth,

I had understood those proscriptions to apply only after the pitcher had assumed a legal pitching position. That is, hands together (Set or Windup) or moving both hands simultaneously (Windup). Is that not correct?

JM

According to FED clincians and an email from national, technically, no, that is not correct.

Hopefully, however, common sense prevails in most games.

[UmpJM]

Originally Posted by GarthB

According to FED clincians and an email from national, technically, no, that is not correct.

Hopefully, however, common sense prevails in most games.

Garth,

Got it. Thanks. I'm afraid the "logic" of a number of the FED rulings still eludes my feeble coach brain.

JM

[SanDiegoSteve]

It's still OOO to call a balk for wiping sweat, adusting cap, shaking off signs with glove, or whathaveyou. If the pitcher doesn't know which foot to step off with, balk. If he doesn't come to a stop, balk. But I'm not about to start balking pitchers for wiping the sweat off their faces, and no umpire I know that is worth his salt would either.

[Tim C]

" . . . no umpire worth his salt . . . "

Steve, people can have thoughts different than yours and still be a very good umpire.

You are starting to sound more like me all the time . . . that should scare you.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Tim C

" . . . no umpire worth his salt . . . "

Steve, people can have thoughts different than yours and still be a very good umpire.

You are starting to sound more like me all the time . . . that should scare you.

Tee, Tee, Tee,

And once again I am misquoted. The actual quotation should read, ". . .no umpire I know that is worth his salt. . ."

See the difference?

This means that I have never heard of or seen an umpire that I know ever call this.

I did not mean to infer that anyone who called these things a balk was a bad umpire. I simply meant that in my neck of the woods, it just ain't done. We play baseball.