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BigUmp56 Wed Mar 15, 2006 06:17am

I think it was Ozzy who gave you the best reason why we don't remove our mask with the right hand. You don't want to end up throwing it or knocking someone in the head with it when you sell a banger.



Tim.

SanDiegoSteve Wed Mar 15, 2006 08:42am

I have seen a few umpires remove the mask with the right hand, only to transfer it to the left hand immediately.

I also have seen some professionals use both hands to remove it as well, probably taking their time to make sure they don't rip their hats off in front of 50,000 fans.

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phillips.alex Wed Mar 15, 2006 01:09pm

i agree that you don't have it in the hand that you signal with, but if you sell bangers with the left, why not hold a mask in the right?

briancurtin Wed Mar 15, 2006 01:39pm

Quote:

Originally posted by phillips.alex
i agree that you don't have it in the hand that you signal with, but if you sell bangers with the left, why not hold a mask in the right?
because you never make calls with your left hand except the left half of a safe signal, and the various times you point (not including pointing strikes).

UMP25 Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:18pm

Quote:

Originally posted by GarthB
Quote:

Originally posted by phillips.alex
you can do everything with your right hand as long as you signal with the left. Lefty's do it. You can too.
Thank God I have never seen a left handed umpire, including me, signal with the left hand. What a crock.

You don't remember Ken Kaiser??? ;)

GarthB Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:43pm

Quote:

Originally posted by SanDiegoSteve
I have seen a few umpires remove the mask with the right hand, only to transfer it to the left hand immediately.



http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/1/1_4_45.gif

And here's one reason why you shouldn't do that, either.

I was evaluating an umpire at a 3A varsity game. R3 is trying for home on an infield hit. The play was close.

Now try to visualize this:

PU takes his mask off with his right hand, then takes it from his right hand with his left, then signals out with his right hand.

Here's what the fans and coaches saw: A signal of out with his right hand, with mask in hand, followed by a signal of safe due to the left hand coming to the center of his body and and (after transfering the mask) swinging back to his left, followed by another out call.

Can you say "Sh!t house"?


GarthB Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:46pm

Quote:

Originally posted by phillips.alex
wow....i never thought i would get that much commentary for this....i personally do it with my left, but two guys in my assn. do it with their right since they are left handed, and one of them works d-1 college ball, no problems... are you sure this isn't just some old taboo?
Yes, I am sure. As far as the alleged "D-1" umpire goes, either he is not a conference official or the level of D-1 officials is lacking in your area. I'd love to know what area that is.

Tim C Sat Mar 18, 2006 02:57pm

GB
 
Bellingham, WA

GarthB Sat Mar 18, 2006 03:37pm

"Ahhhh," he said with a knowing wink to his Portland partner.

[Edited by GarthB on Mar 18th, 2006 at 05:06 PM]


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