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Old Mon Mar 06, 2006, 10:50am
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If a sitch gets confusing, ask yourself if the same advances would/could have occured had the pitch been ball 3. In the OP, yes, they would been awarded a base on the pitch out of play, not just the BB. In the 2nd sitch, yes, Able would have stolen 3B on the pitch just as easily on ball 3 as on ball 4. In the 3rd, though, the play made on Charles was the reason Able advanced - put Able back on 3rd.

For some reason people are saying it's only Charles's advance to 1st that matters. Not true. Are you allowing runners to advance on a Ground Rule Double by Charles? No, of course not. It's ANY runners that advance due to the actions of Charles.
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